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If either of you suspect that please email hn@ycombinator.com as per guidelines and don't start a thread on it https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by munk-a 6y ago

If either of you suspect that please email hn@ycombinator.com as per guidelines and don't start a thread on it https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

mytailorisrich 6y ago
They do not care. People downvote in bulk and then also go though your history and downvote everything. This has just happened to me for being critical of this report, so clearly it's not only the alleged "pro-China conspiracy" doing the downvoting. That's simply how it is on HN for controversial topics and that's inevitable when downvotes are weaponised by design.
- yorwba 6y ago
  The mods do care. Every time I've emailed hn@ycombinator.com (usually about violations of the "original source" policy) I've gotten a response from dang. Not always quickly and not always the response I'd hoped for but always a response that showed they care. If you're upset about bulk downvotes, it might help to consider this: if someone downvotes a comment of yours and your karma drops by one point, that's one person disagreeing with you. If someone goes through your history and downvotes every comment and your karma drops by a dozen points, that's still just one person disagreeing with you.
  - dillondoyle 6y ago
    for sure and i have absolutely no proof. even if CCP posts are brigaded or manipulated i doubt it could be proved. like you said people have different opinions. and here the world-views here are shockingly 180 from each other. but there is still a difference between opinion and nation state coordinated manipulation.
  - mytailorisrich 6y ago
    Actions speak louder than words. This happens as a direct result of HN's design, which has downvotes and which downvotes are designed to suppress comments. This has never changed as far as I know, hence they do not care about this pattern of behaviour. And yes, I am aware that we are not to discuss the voting of comments. It may have been OK before when the community was smaller and more mature, but now it's a real turn off and so I think it's fair to bring it up. In his reply above dang also refers to "flamewars" and "flamewar commments", which is a disappointing generalisation, not far from victim blaming because all and any comments and users are targeted simply for putting forward a different point of view.

by munk-a 6y ago

mytailorisrich 6y ago

They do not care. People downvote in bulk and then also go though your history and downvote everything. This has just happened to me for being critical of this report, so clearly it's not only the alleged "pro-China conspiracy" doing the downvoting. That's simply how it is on HN for controversial topics and that's inevitable when downvotes are weaponised by design.

yorwba 6y ago
The mods do care. Every time I've emailed hn@ycombinator.com (usually about violations of the "original source" policy) I've gotten a response from dang. Not always quickly and not always the response I'd hoped for but always a response that showed they care. If you're upset about bulk downvotes, it might help to consider this: if someone downvotes a comment of yours and your karma drops by one point, that's one person disagreeing with you. If someone goes through your history and downvotes every comment and your karma drops by a dozen points, that's still just one person disagreeing with you.
- dillondoyle 6y ago
  for sure and i have absolutely no proof. even if CCP posts are brigaded or manipulated i doubt it could be proved. like you said people have different opinions. and here the world-views here are shockingly 180 from each other. but there is still a difference between opinion and nation state coordinated manipulation.
- mytailorisrich 6y ago
  Actions speak louder than words. This happens as a direct result of HN's design, which has downvotes and which downvotes are designed to suppress comments. This has never changed as far as I know, hence they do not care about this pattern of behaviour. And yes, I am aware that we are not to discuss the voting of comments. It may have been OK before when the community was smaller and more mature, but now it's a real turn off and so I think it's fair to bring it up. In his reply above dang also refers to "flamewars" and "flamewar commments", which is a disappointing generalisation, not far from victim blaming because all and any comments and users are targeted simply for putting forward a different point of view.