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You do have a point but in case you are saddened by this phenomena, let me just point out that we live in a VERY different age compared to when GNU coreutils we

You do have a point but in case you are saddened by this phenomena, let me just point out that we live in a VERY different age compared to when GNU coreutils were born. Nowadays you only get a few minutes -- or hours if you are lucky -- to answer a ton of fundamental questions like "where do we host code?" and "how do we communicate on this project?" or "how do we do CI/CD?" etc. The people in the past had all the time in the world to tinker and invent. Maybe I am mistaken though, past is usually looked through rose-tinted glasses right? But the fact remains: nowadays answering the above questions is beyond my pay grade: in fact it's beyond anyone's pay grade. Services like GitHub are deemed a commodity and questioning that status quo is a career danger. I really do wish we start over on most of the items you enumerated. But I am not paid to do it. In fact I am paid to quickly select tools and never invent any -- except when they solve a pressing business need and are specific enough for the organization; in that case it's not only okay but a requirement. Beyond anything else however, we practically have no choice. If I don't host a new company project on GitHub I'll eventually be fired and replaced with somebody who will.

HDMI_Cable 6y ago
I would also onto your point and say that one reason why Rust is easy to get into is because of the convenience that these semi-proprietary platforms provide. We here on HN have both the time and ability to set up things like CLI Git, and Matrix. But for a new language, forcing people onto esoteric (& superior) platforms makes them less likely to use them. It would be nice if Matrix and self-hosted Git were the default, but when acquiring users/programmers is your goal, Rust doesn't have that luxury.
- pdimitar 6y ago
  Agreed. Maybe they will tighten things up in the future but when you are after adoption and getting as much help as you can, it's indeed a luxury to be morally idealistic.

HDMI_Cable 6y ago

I would also onto your point and say that one reason why Rust is easy to get into is because of the convenience that these semi-proprietary platforms provide. We here on HN have both the time and ability to set up things like CLI Git, and Matrix. But for a new language, forcing people onto esoteric (& superior) platforms makes them less likely to use them. It would be nice if Matrix and self-hosted Git were the default, but when acquiring users/programmers is your goal, Rust doesn't have that luxury.

pdimitar 6y ago
Agreed. Maybe they will tighten things up in the future but when you are after adoption and getting as much help as you can, it's indeed a luxury to be morally idealistic.