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Why don't you ask the union organizers in the Alabama union drive what they are hoping for. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/feb/23/amazon-bessemer-

Why don't you ask the union organizers in the Alabama union drive what they are hoping for. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/feb/23/amazon-bessemer-alabama-union https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/feb/23/amazon-be... https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/09/us/politics/amazon-union-alabama-biden.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/09/us/politics/amazon-union-... * Improved safety and a system for reporting safety issues without fear of retaliation * Improved working conditions in general: many amazon warehouses are not airconditioned and get so hot in the summers they park an ambulance outside for when someone collapses from heat stroke. * Job security. currently you can be fired without cause, or with causes like falling behind on the absurd production quotas. With a union you have due process to protect your job. * More breaks (imagine only getting ONE break, 4 hours into the work day). I'm a healthy, able bodied person, but what if I need to pee more than once in 4 hours? * Contractual pay and benefits. Sure they pay $15/hr now and offer benefits. What's stopping them from cutting that wage or cutting those benefits if costs from another sector cut into profits? Nothing

Rule35 6y ago
> Why don't you ask the union organizers in the Alabama union drive what they are hoping for. I've read many lists, like the one you posted (thanks), and mostly I do not find them believable and where I do, I don't find them compelling. > but what if I need to pee more than once in 4 hours? OSHA specifically forbids limiting bathroom breaks for any employee. Sure, they'd like you to pee on your break, but they can't enforce it - they cannot fire you for this, despite that it is at-will employment. Ditto all the health/safety claims made. All this is covered by existing law and the courts are very worker friendly. > Job security - currently you can be fired without cause Which are the conditions under which I hire a babysitter. > or with causes like falling behind on the absurd production quotas. Quotas are the exact opposite of unstated rules, and are generally good. If you can't pack n widgets in an hour, don't take the job. Also, if someone can perform at quota it's not absurd. > What's stopping them from cutting that wage or cutting those benefits if costs from another sector cut into profits? Nothing If your job stopped being productive or profitable they'd stop paying you to do it. And you think they should be prevented from doing this?

Rule35 6y ago

> Why don't you ask the union organizers in the Alabama union drive what they are hoping for. I've read many lists, like the one you posted (thanks), and mostly I do not find them believable and where I do, I don't find them compelling. > but what if I need to pee more than once in 4 hours? OSHA specifically forbids limiting bathroom breaks for any employee. Sure, they'd like you to pee on your break, but they can't enforce it - they cannot fire you for this, despite that it is at-will employment. Ditto all the health/safety claims made. All this is covered by existing law and the courts are very worker friendly. > Job security - currently you can be fired without cause Which are the conditions under which I hire a babysitter. > or with causes like falling behind on the absurd production quotas. Quotas are the exact opposite of unstated rules, and are generally good. If you can't pack n widgets in an hour, don't take the job. Also, if someone can perform at quota it's not absurd. > What's stopping them from cutting that wage or cutting those benefits if costs from another sector cut into profits? Nothing If your job stopped being productive or profitable they'd stop paying you to do it. And you think they should be prevented from doing this?