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There are multiple possible explanations as to why they won't compete. One of them is incapability through biological inferiority, which I highly doubt is the c

There are multiple possible explanations as to why they won't compete. One of them is incapability through biological inferiority, which I highly doubt is the case. Another is systematic bias. Another is really as simple as not wanting to. Again, please read what is actually written, not what you want to answer to. Frankly, this "discrimination towards women" may as well be turned around with one simple trick. Which of the two sexes is more likely to have their worth as partner be judged based on their ambition and achievements? Last time I checked, women are a lot more judgmental of their partner's ambition, earning capabilities, career, and similar traits than men are, frequently to the point of wanting a guy who is relatively "better" than themselves. You think that has no influence on competitiveness? When your worth as a romantic partner gets tied heavily to all those things, which can be found in a field emphasizing competitiveness, surely you can imagine men respond by being more competitive. Now imagine your worth isn't as tied to this, you have all these men with a very clear incentive to compete keep trying to one-up another. It isn't a secret people give up easier when the challenge is too difficult compared to the reward, and assuming above, women clearly have less of a reward at the end of this. Convenient excuses? Probably. Frankly, the entire "oppression" narrative is awfully convenient when put under the right angle. So instead of knee-jerking towards all this, let's stop this "trope" as well and address the problem for the multifaceted issue it truly is. Edit: as replying to the below is no longer an option and apparently my "competition" claim is "unsubstantiated", it seems I have to point out the obvious. Women still largely go for men outearning them rather than equals, let alone lower.(https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jomf.12372 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jomf.12372) Additionally, money helps men more than women when it comes to cushioning traits of lower value (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S109051381730315X https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S10905...) Though I guess one peer-reviewed study tracking diaries says more than entire countries filled with anecdotal data of women more willing to work part time even when not caring for kids.

endisneigh 6y ago
One thing I'm always surprised with is how people are so confident in their own baseless, unsubstantiated claims. Your entire comment basically is based off your own bias. Research can and already has been done on this issue, showing that you're probably wrong. I implore you to read this paper which already puts to rest your outdated notions that men are somehow more competitive than women. I'd like to emphasize the following with respect to competition and finances: > The same line of reasoning might lead to the expectation that men should compete more about financial success than women do, since this would make them more attractive to women. The data, however, do not support this: there was no sex difference in the strength of competitive feeling about attaining financial success, nor were there consistent differences in the fraction of diary entries concerned with things that might be thought to lead to financial success, such as success at school; in fact, in Study 1 women had a larger fraction of diary entries about success at work than men did. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/13644511_Are_men_more_competitive_than_women/link/573fb6ee08aea45ee8450169/download https://www.researchgate.net/publication/13644511_Are_men_mo... No worries though, I'll just believe your baseless conjecture instead of a peer-reviewed paper.
kaitai 6y ago
If you think women aren't competing and being judged, simply with another set of criteria, you've... not talked to a lot of women. Which of the two sexes is more likely to have their worth as partner be judged based on their [looks, and maybe second emotional support]? Last time I checked, [men] are a lot more judgmental of their partner's [looks] than [women] are, frequently to the point of wanting a [gal] who is relatively "better" than themselves. You think that has no influence on competitiveness? When your worth as a romantic partner gets tied heavily to [this one primary thing, and then the emotional support bit], which can be found in a field emphasizing competitiveness, surely you can imagine [women] respond by ... well, what am I supposed to fill in here? But if you think carefully about this, being agreeable (what's optimized for in this school stuff) is other than appearance probably the single most important currency a woman has.

endisneigh 6y ago

One thing I'm always surprised with is how people are so confident in their own baseless, unsubstantiated claims. Your entire comment basically is based off your own bias. Research can and already has been done on this issue, showing that you're probably wrong. I implore you to read this paper which already puts to rest your outdated notions that men are somehow more competitive than women. I'd like to emphasize the following with respect to competition and finances: > The same line of reasoning might lead to the expectation that men should compete more about financial success than women do, since this would make them more attractive to women. The data, however, do not support this: there was no sex difference in the strength of competitive feeling about attaining financial success, nor were there consistent differences in the fraction of diary entries concerned with things that might be thought to lead to financial success, such as success at school; in fact, in Study 1 women had a larger fraction of diary entries about success at work than men did. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/13644511_Are_men_more_competitive_than_women/link/573fb6ee08aea45ee8450169/download https://www.researchgate.net/publication/13644511_Are_men_mo... No worries though, I'll just believe your baseless conjecture instead of a peer-reviewed paper.

kaitai 6y ago

If you think women aren't competing and being judged, simply with another set of criteria, you've... not talked to a lot of women. Which of the two sexes is more likely to have their worth as partner be judged based on their [looks, and maybe second emotional support]? Last time I checked, [men] are a lot more judgmental of their partner's [looks] than [women] are, frequently to the point of wanting a [gal] who is relatively "better" than themselves. You think that has no influence on competitiveness? When your worth as a romantic partner gets tied heavily to [this one primary thing, and then the emotional support bit], which can be found in a field emphasizing competitiveness, surely you can imagine [women] respond by ... well, what am I supposed to fill in here? But if you think carefully about this, being agreeable (what's optimized for in this school stuff) is other than appearance probably the single most important currency a woman has.