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I feel like US is really behind on federal ePrivacy and personal data regulations. Seems like CCPA is a step in the right direction but should be implemented o

I feel like US is really behind on federal ePrivacy and personal data regulations. Seems like CCPA is a step in the right direction but should be implemented on federal level.

ProAm 6y ago
> I feel like US is really behind on ...everything that matters
- cynoclast 6y ago
  Everything that matters to the working class* Our imperialism, weapons tech, and exploitation of the working class are top notch. The amount banks take from people with no money in overdraft fees alone should be cause for a revolution.
- oh_sigh 6y ago
  Can we please not turn HN into reddit?
  - ProAm 6y ago
    This was not a reddit-esque comment. But a real one that could actually be discussed like adults on HN. I believe my statement/comment.
    - oh_sigh 6y ago
      You expect adults to gather around and discuss your 3 word, massively generalized post? Ok.
      - ProAm 6y ago
        How many word would you like? I think you understood what my point was, as for it was clear and succinct. Did you want bullet points and references? America is currently largely a failed state (in terms of future global power), has the most funded military that cannot win wars but serves as a jobs program and as result is a large part of its own economy. A medical system that is expensive but cannot meet the needs of its people and also has a non-functioning government however it is a country with a lot economic inertia. This inertia will be a long slow deceleration that will lead it to fate similar of England.
        oh_sigh 6y ago
        > America is currently largely a failed state See, that is exactly what I was talking about when I said please don't turn reddit into HN (even considering your unfalsifiable parenthetical)
        ProAm 6y ago
        As a discussion forum I think we can discuss anything as long as it meets the guidelines. [1] Sorry you have had a bad experience on Reddit but please do not bring that negativity here. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
cbhl 6y ago
The US introduced the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act back in 1998, and the response for most websites was to put in an age gate requiring a birthday where you're at least 13 or 14. I wonder why at the time congress scoped this bill to just children, rather than thinking about online privacy for all consumers.
- closeparen 6y ago
  COPPA is about the fact that 9-year-olds can’t meaningfully consent to privacy policies. Adults can, and can even do so on behalf of their children under COPPA, it’s just that most sites would rather ban children than deal with parent signature forms.
  - yellowapple 6y ago
    > COPPA is about the fact that 9-year-olds can’t meaningfully consent to privacy policies. And 13 year olds can? I'm probably preaching to the choir, but it seems like COPPA set the bar too low. And further, it's pretty straightforward to be COPPA compliant - even with toddlers using your website - if you, you know, don't collect personal information to begin with. Again, probably choir-preaching...
    - closeparen 6y ago
      I most often remember seeing this invoked over email address, where email is intrinsic to the site’s functionality.
- kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
  The data brokering industry is huge. They don't want data privacy laws to be passed and they make campaign contributions to make sure the status quo is maintained. The government likes this situation too because it lets them bypass 4A.
d4rk9 6y ago
The US main goal is profit. We had already sold the country to the highest bidder.

I feel like US is really behind on federal ePrivacy and personal data regulations. Seems like CCPA is a step in the right direction but should be implemented on federal level.

ProAm 6y ago

> I feel like US is really behind on ...everything that matters

cynoclast 6y ago
Everything that matters to the working class* Our imperialism, weapons tech, and exploitation of the working class are top notch. The amount banks take from people with no money in overdraft fees alone should be cause for a revolution.
oh_sigh 6y ago
Can we please not turn HN into reddit?
- ProAm 6y ago
  This was not a reddit-esque comment. But a real one that could actually be discussed like adults on HN. I believe my statement/comment.
  - oh_sigh 6y ago
    You expect adults to gather around and discuss your 3 word, massively generalized post? Ok.
    - ProAm 6y ago
      How many word would you like? I think you understood what my point was, as for it was clear and succinct. Did you want bullet points and references? America is currently largely a failed state (in terms of future global power), has the most funded military that cannot win wars but serves as a jobs program and as result is a large part of its own economy. A medical system that is expensive but cannot meet the needs of its people and also has a non-functioning government however it is a country with a lot economic inertia. This inertia will be a long slow deceleration that will lead it to fate similar of England.
      - oh_sigh 6y ago
        > America is currently largely a failed state See, that is exactly what I was talking about when I said please don't turn reddit into HN (even considering your unfalsifiable parenthetical)
        ProAm 6y ago
        As a discussion forum I think we can discuss anything as long as it meets the guidelines. [1] Sorry you have had a bad experience on Reddit but please do not bring that negativity here. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

cbhl 6y ago

The US introduced the Children's Online Privacy Protection Act back in 1998, and the response for most websites was to put in an age gate requiring a birthday where you're at least 13 or 14. I wonder why at the time congress scoped this bill to just children, rather than thinking about online privacy for all consumers.

closeparen 6y ago
COPPA is about the fact that 9-year-olds can’t meaningfully consent to privacy policies. Adults can, and can even do so on behalf of their children under COPPA, it’s just that most sites would rather ban children than deal with parent signature forms.
- yellowapple 6y ago
  > COPPA is about the fact that 9-year-olds can’t meaningfully consent to privacy policies. And 13 year olds can? I'm probably preaching to the choir, but it seems like COPPA set the bar too low. And further, it's pretty straightforward to be COPPA compliant - even with toddlers using your website - if you, you know, don't collect personal information to begin with. Again, probably choir-preaching...
  - closeparen 6y ago
    I most often remember seeing this invoked over email address, where email is intrinsic to the site’s functionality.
kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
The data brokering industry is huge. They don't want data privacy laws to be passed and they make campaign contributions to make sure the status quo is maintained. The government likes this situation too because it lets them bypass 4A.

d4rk9 6y ago

The US main goal is profit. We had already sold the country to the highest bidder.