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I remember reading that the Chinese embassy once proudly tweeted something to the effect that they are "encouraging" Ughyr ladies to get sterilized

mytailorisrich 6y ago
China has had a strict population control policy for decades. Minorities, including Uyghurs, have in fact been allowed to have more children than the majority Han people, and I believe that for a long time Uyghurs 'got away' with having even more children than allowed in law. Do you think that the Chinese government would boast about committing genocide? If they did tweet what you say they did it is because that's part of their national policy and they don't see anything negative about encouraging people to have less children. Point being this is propaganda against propaganda and neither you nor I know for a fact what is going on in Xinjiang. I also find it odd that people accept for fact what they read on the website quoted here, which I'm sure no-one knows and, if you search a bit, may not be so reliable. I mean it could be true, but at face value it could equally not be true for all I know. Now, to show how civil discussion on HN is, and to show that this is cancel culture in full swing, people are now going through my comments history to downvote them all.
- marshmallow_12 6y ago
  I placed the word "encourage" in inverted commas. It's probably at best coercion and at worst..
- azekai 6y ago
  >Point being this is propaganda against propaganda and neither you nor I know for a fact what is going on in Xinjiang. >Now, to show how civil discussion on HN is, and to show that this is cancel culture in full swing, people are now going through my comments history to downvote them all. You sound like a useful idiot, at best. Shrugging and saying 'we can't know what is happening' is not the correct stance to take against even potential genocide. It is in the best interest of the CCP to obfuscate what is going on. I am sure the truth is very ugly indeed. Governments (especially regimes like China's) don't forcibly put people in camps to be kind to them.
dillondoyle 6y ago
They did and Twitter removed it. CCP called this genocide a success. It's so sad. They also reported CCP called Uygur women 'baby-making machines'.... Plus CCP published themselves large large drops in reproduction among Uighur women: "Between 2017 and 2019, the birth rate in Xinjiang almost halved, dropping from 15.88 per cent in 2017 to 8.14 in 2019, according to an annual report compiled by the National Bureau of Statistics of China." https://hongkongfp.com/2021/02/25/chinese-govt-figures-show-sharp-decline-in-xinjiang-birth-rate-amid-mounting-claims-of-uighur-genocide/ https://hongkongfp.com/2021/02/25/chinese-govt-figures-show-... The Guardian article: https://archive.is/QAnl2 https://archive.is/QAnl2 Tweet text: Study shows that in the process of eradicating extremism, the minds of Uygur women in Xinjiang were emancipated and gender equality and reproductive health were promoted, making them no longer baby-making machines. they are more confident and independent.

mytailorisrich 6y ago

China has had a strict population control policy for decades. Minorities, including Uyghurs, have in fact been allowed to have more children than the majority Han people, and I believe that for a long time Uyghurs 'got away' with having even more children than allowed in law. Do you think that the Chinese government would boast about committing genocide? If they did tweet what you say they did it is because that's part of their national policy and they don't see anything negative about encouraging people to have less children. Point being this is propaganda against propaganda and neither you nor I know for a fact what is going on in Xinjiang. I also find it odd that people accept for fact what they read on the website quoted here, which I'm sure no-one knows and, if you search a bit, may not be so reliable. I mean it could be true, but at face value it could equally not be true for all I know. Now, to show how civil discussion on HN is, and to show that this is cancel culture in full swing, people are now going through my comments history to downvote them all.

marshmallow_12 6y ago
I placed the word "encourage" in inverted commas. It's probably at best coercion and at worst..
azekai 6y ago
>Point being this is propaganda against propaganda and neither you nor I know for a fact what is going on in Xinjiang. >Now, to show how civil discussion on HN is, and to show that this is cancel culture in full swing, people are now going through my comments history to downvote them all. You sound like a useful idiot, at best. Shrugging and saying 'we can't know what is happening' is not the correct stance to take against even potential genocide. It is in the best interest of the CCP to obfuscate what is going on. I am sure the truth is very ugly indeed. Governments (especially regimes like China's) don't forcibly put people in camps to be kind to them.

dillondoyle 6y ago

They did and Twitter removed it. CCP called this genocide a success. It's so sad. They also reported CCP called Uygur women 'baby-making machines'.... Plus CCP published themselves large large drops in reproduction among Uighur women: "Between 2017 and 2019, the birth rate in Xinjiang almost halved, dropping from 15.88 per cent in 2017 to 8.14 in 2019, according to an annual report compiled by the National Bureau of Statistics of China." https://hongkongfp.com/2021/02/25/chinese-govt-figures-show-sharp-decline-in-xinjiang-birth-rate-amid-mounting-claims-of-uighur-genocide/ https://hongkongfp.com/2021/02/25/chinese-govt-figures-show-... The Guardian article: https://archive.is/QAnl2 https://archive.is/QAnl2 Tweet text: Study shows that in the process of eradicating extremism, the minds of Uygur women in Xinjiang were emancipated and gender equality and reproductive health were promoted, making them no longer baby-making machines. they are more confident and independent.