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The issue is raw material. China controls fuck tons of raw material in Africa and within itself, while the West ignored most of the "poor" countries. Not that C
by fakedang 6y ago
The issue is raw material. China controls fuck tons of raw material in Africa and within itself, while the West ignored most of the "poor" countries. Not that China has been a positive force, but at least China hasn't invaded any countries in the name of bringing democracy to them.
Fun stuff, Afghanistan has some of the largest deposits in the world for lithium, rare earths, gemstones and uranium, but good luck convincing them now of mining that. Also, yep, China has started both mining operations in Afghanistan, and an open declaration from the Taliban stating they won't touch their facilities.
- chordalkeyboard 6y ago> at least China hasn't invaded any countries in the name of bringing democracy to them. Tibet would like a word.
- fakedang 6y agoI didn't say China doesn't invade places. I said they don't invade places in the name of bringing democracy. In Tibet's case, it was about "restoring" China's borders (as it is with almost all Chinese incursions today).
- AussieWog93 6y agoA large part China's justification for their expansion into Tibet was about "liberating" the locals from a pretty harsh caste-based monarchy system. Not exactly bringing democracy, but not far off it.
- inglor_cz 6y agoYes, whenever you talk to a Chinese apologist about Tibet, the pre-1950 theocracy always gets trotted out. Well, true, but that still does not give you a right to invade and rule another nation.
- beaunative 6y agolikewise, ...
- stjohnswarts 6y agoThey replaced a dictatorship with a dictatorship, I would say that's not a good thing and not even close to democratization. Not that it has worked out well for western powers either.
- WalterSear 6y agoThe US replaces dictatorships with dictatorships in the name of democracy all the time. It has also replaced democracies with dictatorships in the name of democracy.
- stjohnswarts 6y agoThe modern equivalent is them trying to take over the South China sea so that they control all shipping through there as well. They just a bit too late to join in the colonization frenzy, but they would just have surely done it as any western country if they would have been in a position to do so. Humans are humans and by and large act the same way.
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