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You’re doubting the source of my quotes and saying I shouldn’t have posted them if there is already online documentation on it?

Y-bar 6y ago
No, from my perspective this is why you get down-voted: > I had not heard of any of this before today. The news only talked about internment, surveillance, and forced labour. You seem to lay blame on the media for not telling you about this when it has previously been reported. For example BBC has consistently reported on this, so you apparently do not read BBC or check Wikipedia when a new subject arises where you find something you have not heard about before. > China forcing birth control on Uighurs to suppress population, report says > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713 BBC 2020 > China Muslims: Xinjiang schools used to separate children from families > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48825090 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48825090 BBC 2019 It is medias job to report stuff, but it is also our job to actually read it and not blame media when we fail to do so.
- hertzrat 6y ago
  I’m not blaming anyone, I’m saying I’m surprised and that it’s new information for me. Stop mind reading
  - Y-bar 6y ago
    Serious question here. How could I attempt to answer your questions without at least attempting to be emphatic to where you are coming from? Does it not require a modicum of "walking in your shoes" and trying to see things from your perspective? It just looks like you are taking an antagonistic stance by saying "Stop mind reading" to my attempts at contributing to answering your question here. (by the way, I see my own points go down negative here, just like yours so I also wonder)
munk-a 6y ago
To clarify the OP Just Asking Questions[1] is a slimey rhetorical tool that's meant to cast doubt on the statements it's like saying "The Nazis ran concentration camps? Oh I haven't heard anything about that from the papers I read." that statement is subtly (or not) implying uncertainty in the veracity of the existence of concentration camps by pointing out that they aren't being universally decried. I think that reading your original comment as JAQ is a bit of a bad faith action, but this is also a topic that produces a lot of vitriol on both sides so I can see why the commenter read it in such a manner. 1. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions

Y-bar 6y ago

No, from my perspective this is why you get down-voted: > I had not heard of any of this before today. The news only talked about internment, surveillance, and forced labour. You seem to lay blame on the media for not telling you about this when it has previously been reported. For example BBC has consistently reported on this, so you apparently do not read BBC or check Wikipedia when a new subject arises where you find something you have not heard about before. > China forcing birth control on Uighurs to suppress population, report says > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53220713 BBC 2020 > China Muslims: Xinjiang schools used to separate children from families > https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48825090 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48825090 BBC 2019 It is medias job to report stuff, but it is also our job to actually read it and not blame media when we fail to do so.

hertzrat 6y ago
I’m not blaming anyone, I’m saying I’m surprised and that it’s new information for me. Stop mind reading
- Y-bar 6y ago
  Serious question here. How could I attempt to answer your questions without at least attempting to be emphatic to where you are coming from? Does it not require a modicum of "walking in your shoes" and trying to see things from your perspective? It just looks like you are taking an antagonistic stance by saying "Stop mind reading" to my attempts at contributing to answering your question here. (by the way, I see my own points go down negative here, just like yours so I also wonder)

munk-a 6y ago

To clarify the OP Just Asking Questions[1] is a slimey rhetorical tool that's meant to cast doubt on the statements it's like saying "The Nazis ran concentration camps? Oh I haven't heard anything about that from the papers I read." that statement is subtly (or not) implying uncertainty in the veracity of the existence of concentration camps by pointing out that they aren't being universally decried. I think that reading your original comment as JAQ is a bit of a bad faith action, but this is also a topic that produces a lot of vitriol on both sides so I can see why the commenter read it in such a manner. 1. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions