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Can you provide some sources for terrorist attacks perpetrated by Uighers?

dyadic 6y ago
They're talking about East Turkistan Islamic Movement (ETIM), it's the Uyghur jihadist organization that's conducted a number of terrorist attacks using bombs and knives. I don't have a source to hand but you can find some attacks listed on their wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkistan_Islamic_Party#Attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkistan_Islamic_Party#Attack...
- jedimind 6y ago
  It's a weak propagandist tactic to deflect, with false accusations of "terrorism", from the real geopolitical importance of xinjiang: https://youtu.be/ZxvYcByv2M8 https://youtu.be/ZxvYcByv2M8
  - deleted 6y ago
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  - dyadic 6y ago
    You've been posting similar comments all over this thread and it's a bit tiring. You don't have to like or support what China are doing to acknowledge that the terrorism was real. These are real groups and real documented events that you would be calling terrorism if they'd happened in any other country. Be careful when you start making friends with your enemy's enemy.
    - aptidude187 6y ago
      Well if people like you spread pro ccp talking points then I see absolutely no reason why he shouldn't repeatedly post the evidence dismantling your propaganda. The absurdity is that China's reign is a literal reign of terror and misinformation as we already saw in Hong Kong and throughout history, not only in Xinjiang, but in their own territories (Tiananmen Square for instance) or dystopian surveillance and oppression, so accusing them of "terrorism" is just the pot calling the kettle black.
      - dyadic 6y ago
        Oh, come on. What is this? > people like you I linked an article on Wikipedia in response to someone’s question. It’s hardly Chinese propaganda. Really?
        aptidude187 6y ago
        >I linked an article on Wikipedia in response to someone’s question. It’s hardly Chinese propaganda. Really? What kind of absurd bait and switch is that? I am talking about your propaganda right above. You are omitting years of oppression and terrorism against the uyghur people by the ccp + their genocide while dishonestly highlighting the resistance as the terrorism. That's like saying "yea but the jews tried to kill hitler with bombs, that's terrorism" while omitting the context of what was happening to the jews. What kind of childish mind games are you playing, smh...
        sheepdestroyer 6y ago
        Aptidude/jedimind, always operating in duo, is just a troll. Don't fall for it
- g00gler 6y ago
  Very interesting. I had heard about people being stabbed at a bus stop back in 2014 but I hadn’t heard of many of these incidents. Thanks for posting! It seems like concerns about radical Islam are mounting in both the east and west (see Swedish burka ban, new French laws about stopping radicalization). I wonder what avenues of unilateral action can be taken by China, the EU and US.
lucian1900 6y ago
https://youtu.be/u4cYE6E27_g https://youtu.be/u4cYE6E27_g
- tablespoon 6y ago
  It's worth noting that that video is by CGTN, which is China's version of RT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Global_Television_Network https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Global_Television_Networ...
  - dyadic 6y ago
    Is that like Russia's version of the BBC?
    - tablespoon 6y ago
      > Is that like Russia's version of the BBC? No. Or more precisely, that's a false equivalency because you can only make it if you ignore some very important details. BBC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#BBC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Per... RT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#RT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Per... CGTN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#China_Global_Television_Network https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Per...
    - seppin 6y ago
      No https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_media https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_media https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_broadcasting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_broadcasting > Public-sector media (state-funded) is not to be confused with state media (state-controlled), which is "controlled financially and editorially by the state."[1]
tablespoon 6y ago
>> It's illustrative how Americans get up in arms about how the Chinese dealing with Muslim terrorists in their own country > Can you provide some sources for terrorist attacks perpetrated by Uighers? They're probably referring to stuff like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kunming_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kunming_attack I remember after 9/11 there were paranoid fears that the US was going to do extreme things like round up all Muslims and put them in internment camps, etc. China's actually pursuing a policy not too different from those fears.
- marshmallow_12 6y ago
  Telling
jedimind 6y ago
Don't fall for the false "terrorism" accusation. The real issue is the geopolitical importance of xinjiang: https://youtu.be/ZxvYcByv2M8 https://youtu.be/ZxvYcByv2M8

They're talking about East Turkistan Islamic Movement (ETIM), it's the Uyghur jihadist organization that's conducted a number of terrorist attacks using bombs and knives. I don't have a source to hand but you can find some attacks listed on their wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkistan_Islamic_Party#Attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkistan_Islamic_Party#Attack...

jedimind 6y ago
It's a weak propagandist tactic to deflect, with false accusations of "terrorism", from the real geopolitical importance of xinjiang: https://youtu.be/ZxvYcByv2M8 https://youtu.be/ZxvYcByv2M8
- deleted 6y ago
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- dyadic 6y ago
  You've been posting similar comments all over this thread and it's a bit tiring. You don't have to like or support what China are doing to acknowledge that the terrorism was real. These are real groups and real documented events that you would be calling terrorism if they'd happened in any other country. Be careful when you start making friends with your enemy's enemy.
  - aptidude187 6y ago
    Well if people like you spread pro ccp talking points then I see absolutely no reason why he shouldn't repeatedly post the evidence dismantling your propaganda. The absurdity is that China's reign is a literal reign of terror and misinformation as we already saw in Hong Kong and throughout history, not only in Xinjiang, but in their own territories (Tiananmen Square for instance) or dystopian surveillance and oppression, so accusing them of "terrorism" is just the pot calling the kettle black.
    - dyadic 6y ago
      Oh, come on. What is this? > people like you I linked an article on Wikipedia in response to someone’s question. It’s hardly Chinese propaganda. Really?
      - aptidude187 6y ago
        >I linked an article on Wikipedia in response to someone’s question. It’s hardly Chinese propaganda. Really? What kind of absurd bait and switch is that? I am talking about your propaganda right above. You are omitting years of oppression and terrorism against the uyghur people by the ccp + their genocide while dishonestly highlighting the resistance as the terrorism. That's like saying "yea but the jews tried to kill hitler with bombs, that's terrorism" while omitting the context of what was happening to the jews. What kind of childish mind games are you playing, smh...
      - sheepdestroyer 6y ago
        Aptidude/jedimind, always operating in duo, is just a troll. Don't fall for it
g00gler 6y ago
Very interesting. I had heard about people being stabbed at a bus stop back in 2014 but I hadn’t heard of many of these incidents. Thanks for posting! It seems like concerns about radical Islam are mounting in both the east and west (see Swedish burka ban, new French laws about stopping radicalization). I wonder what avenues of unilateral action can be taken by China, the EU and US.

lucian1900 6y ago

https://youtu.be/u4cYE6E27_g https://youtu.be/u4cYE6E27_g

tablespoon 6y ago
It's worth noting that that video is by CGTN, which is China's version of RT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Global_Television_Network https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Global_Television_Networ...
- dyadic 6y ago
  Is that like Russia's version of the BBC?
  - tablespoon 6y ago
    > Is that like Russia's version of the BBC? No. Or more precisely, that's a false equivalency because you can only make it if you ignore some very important details. BBC: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#BBC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Per... RT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#RT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Per... CGTN: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#China_Global_Television_Network https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Per...
  - seppin 6y ago
    No https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_media https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_media https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_broadcasting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_broadcasting > Public-sector media (state-funded) is not to be confused with state media (state-controlled), which is "controlled financially and editorially by the state."[1]

tablespoon 6y ago

>> It's illustrative how Americans get up in arms about how the Chinese dealing with Muslim terrorists in their own country > Can you provide some sources for terrorist attacks perpetrated by Uighers? They're probably referring to stuff like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kunming_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kunming_attack I remember after 9/11 there were paranoid fears that the US was going to do extreme things like round up all Muslims and put them in internment camps, etc. China's actually pursuing a policy not too different from those fears.

marshmallow_12 6y ago
Telling

jedimind 6y ago

Don't fall for the false "terrorism" accusation. The real issue is the geopolitical importance of xinjiang: https://youtu.be/ZxvYcByv2M8 https://youtu.be/ZxvYcByv2M8