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> Fantastic - then the business goes under. I've seen that happen to, and there is a natural result - good workers leave and the business dies. No different th
by KittenInABox 6y ago
> Fantastic - then the business goes under. I've seen that happen to, and there is a natural result - good workers leave and the business dies.
No different than if a union doesn't kick out shitty union members no? The same still holds true. Anything a bad union does, a bad boss can do, at least with a union you have a vote.
- random5634 6y agoThis has already happened in America - many union based orgs become totally noncompetitive and had bankruptcies and layoffs rather than blowing away the "drinking buddies" businesses. In the private sector unions now only have a small fraction of jobs (I think < 10% now?) Unions work much better in public sector where they can't go out of business. Police unions, prison guard unions, teacher unions etc. I wouldn't say service or accountability is that great in these systems.
- pydry 6y agoUnion based orgs typically went under because competitor labor was offshored or just cheaper (e.g. new airlines hiring pilots for $16k/year). When you're competing with a Mexican, a Bangladeshi or a slave in Thailand all working for a pittance it doesn't necessarily matter how hard you work. Unemployment or poverty wages are your two choices. Police unions and prison worker unions are more effective because they tend to aid rather than threaten capital. Teachers unions by contrast are not, which is why most governors declare outright war on them.