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But at least the case of healthcare in the US is a very special case. They are literally looting the people. Even an ambulance ride costs huge amounts.

NoOneNew 6y ago
No, again, you're confusing services (and desperate desire) with legalities. This idea that words shouldn't have definite and finite meaning is the biggest problem. Freedoms are legal concepts, not services. I am for universal healthcare. But, universal healthcare is not a "freedom" anymore than electricity or running water is. Getting a service for free is not a freedom. It's a benefit. A vital, important, necessary benefit. Absolutely. But, the same goes for water and electricity. How many people recently IMMEDIATELY died due to lack of water and power from those winter storms? I would argue free water and electricity should come before healthcare. You cut off 3rd party provided water and 3rd party provided electricity to the country, more people would die faster in 1 year than cutting off 3rd party provided healthcare. Of course it's a compounding problem at that, but you get the point. But just like taking your freedoms for granted, you take your standard of living for granted. Why not start making more services for free? It's not a bad idea at first, but where do you actually draw the line? Healthcare is important for life expectancy and general living for a population, but the exact same can be said about running water or electricity... or natural gas if used for heating. I'm not going to argue for natural gas services to be paid for 100% by the gov for obvious reasons. But you know what, if I argue that electricity is vital for heating/cooling and basic living standards to keep people alive, thus must be paid for 100% by the gov... well... why can't natural gas say the same? Arguing for free running water is even easier than electricity.

NoOneNew 6y ago

No, again, you're confusing services (and desperate desire) with legalities. This idea that words shouldn't have definite and finite meaning is the biggest problem. Freedoms are legal concepts, not services. I am for universal healthcare. But, universal healthcare is not a "freedom" anymore than electricity or running water is. Getting a service for free is not a freedom. It's a benefit. A vital, important, necessary benefit. Absolutely. But, the same goes for water and electricity. How many people recently IMMEDIATELY died due to lack of water and power from those winter storms? I would argue free water and electricity should come before healthcare. You cut off 3rd party provided water and 3rd party provided electricity to the country, more people would die faster in 1 year than cutting off 3rd party provided healthcare. Of course it's a compounding problem at that, but you get the point. But just like taking your freedoms for granted, you take your standard of living for granted. Why not start making more services for free? It's not a bad idea at first, but where do you actually draw the line? Healthcare is important for life expectancy and general living for a population, but the exact same can be said about running water or electricity... or natural gas if used for heating. I'm not going to argue for natural gas services to be paid for 100% by the gov for obvious reasons. But you know what, if I argue that electricity is vital for heating/cooling and basic living standards to keep people alive, thus must be paid for 100% by the gov... well... why can't natural gas say the same? Arguing for free running water is even easier than electricity.