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Writing code is a great way to make money in the desert. Israel is essentially an island. Also, warfare in the future is likely to be primarily digital, and Isr
by dagav 6y ago
Writing code is a great way to make money in the desert. Israel is essentially an island. Also, warfare in the future is likely to be primarily digital, and Israel has many enemies. Israel will lead the cybersecurity and cyberwarfare industries out of sheer necessity.
- null_deref 6y agoMost of the Israeli population doesn't live in the desert.
- mam2 6y agothe point was "with not so much natural ressources"
- dagav 6y agoMore than half of Israel's land area is desert. It's quite hard to develop a nation in the desert.
- SuperCuber 6y agoYep. Population density map: https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/images/maps/israel_pop.jpg https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/images/maps/isr... almost all the population lives near the sea.
- rowanseymour 6y agoIt's also part of mythology of Israel that it was built on an empty wasteland, and not on the ashes of Palestinian villages and farms.
- dagav 6y agoI'd like to propose a new law of the internet: Anti-Zionists cannot see a post about Israel without making a comment about the Palestinians. Weren't we talking about land area?
- rowanseymour 6y agoThat's because you see my comment as ideological but It's quite hard to develop a nation in the desert as not.
- dagav 6y agoIt is an objective fact that 55% of the land area of the State of Israel is the Negev desert.
- 0x49fa98 6y agoand where do most Israelis live? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel#Density https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel#Density
- dagav 6y agoPopulation centers are only one concern when you are building a nation. For example, where do you grow your food?
- 0x49fa98 6y agook, lets see what the Israeli government says https://mfa.gov.il/MFA/AboutIsrael/Maps/Pages/Israeli-Agriculture.aspx https://mfa.gov.il/MFA/AboutIsrael/Maps/Pages/Israeli-Agricu... looks like the country being 55% desert factoid is irrelevant
- dagav 6y agoI said it was hard to develop a nation in the desert, I didn't say it was impossible. Israel is a world leader in agricultural technology [1] precisely because of this problem. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agriculture_in_Israel
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- jeffreyrogers 6y agoI don't think warfare will be primarily digital. Similar things were said about airpower, artillery, and naval power. Ultimately you need boots on the ground. If you rely too much on any one thing the enemy will route around it.
- high_byte 6y agoYes, Atlas in boots. many of them. (boston dynamic)
- jeffreyrogers 6y agoMaybe. I trust people more than machines for the near/moderate future.
- dagav 6y agoWhy invade a country, when you can shut down its infrastructure and force them to surrender? War isn't won by killing, its won by conquering. I also suspect that machines will be so effective at killing, that you won't be able to find soldiers stupid enough to fight them head to head. We have yet to see the full capabilities of a cyber super power.
- jeffreyrogers 6y agoI find it hard to imagine a scenario in which all of the relevant infrastructure is shutdown to such a degree that it forces a country to surrender.
- dagav 6y agoWhat if you could shut down their water processing plants? Their electricity grid? Their internet? How long would it take for that state to collapse?
- jeffreyrogers 6y agoThat stuff is so distributed and so heterogenous that I just don't think a successful attack of that sort is likely. Edit: Maybe the most sophisticated attack of that sort was the one against the Iranian nuclear program, and while it was successful it and seems to have set back the program it was hardly a show stopper. It also required pretty specialized knowledge of the controllers used to operate the centrifuges (for enriching the fuel). If you consider the enormous variety of controllers and ways of doing things across different plants I just don't see how it would work to shut down a large fraction of even something like power generation.
- high_byte 6y agoThe cold war never ended, it just moved to cyber space, might as well call it world war 3. also, we made peace with 7 countries that's excellent news! and more to come.
- petra 6y agoMilitary systems will probably become provably secure before the next great war. The situation will be totally different than on the commercial side.