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Firefox market share exceeds 20%, Internet Explorer dips below 70%

18 points by prakash 18y ago

fallentimes 18y ago
Good. Slowly, but surely...
Create 18y ago
e.g. FF is already #1 in .hu Firefox 48.9% Internet Explorer 46.8% http://www.adverticum.com/article/1063/ http://www.adverticum.com/article/1063/
nostrademons 18y ago
It's kinda funny how it differs between different market segments. Diffle (casual games, launched on Digg) had 90% of its visitors use IE and only about 7% on Firefox, while WhatShallIDoNow (to-do list, launched on news.YC) has 70% of its visitors on FireFox with less than 10% on IE. In the first hour after launch - when it was just news.YC traffic - there were a couple hundred Firefox hits and one visitor with IE.
- mattmaroon 18y ago
  Who is the bastard reading this site in IE? I'm the closest thing to a MS fanboy in these parts, and I've been using Mozilla since it was called Phoenix.
  - jmatt 18y ago
    Probably a web developer that happened to have IE up at the time. I've worked at a fortune 500 company whose IT departments won't allow Firefox. Security concerns was the official reason. Needless to say, I'm not there any more.
  - johns 18y ago
    I had issues with FF2, so I went to IE7 when it launched. It wasn't so bad and I actually thought it was beneficial to be running the same platform the majority of my users were running. But eventually I couldn't take it anymore, and FF3 came out so I've switched back.
  - ph0rque 18y ago
    It's the only browser allowed at my day job :-/
  - msg 18y ago
    I'm on IE7 at work. I am a little too lazy to go through the paperwork to get Firefox on. For a while I was forced to use IE6. I'll give this to IE7, it's no IE6.
sosuke 18y ago
As Firefox gains in popularity and the ever popular AdBlock Plus being a regular fixture for installations I wonder if anyone has done any research or speculation into what effect this will have on the internet free with ads based revenue that so many people have built their success around. So to get off my own butt and google it I found a few articles that talk about the same issue (http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2007/09/adblock_plus_th.php http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2007/09/adblock_plus_th.ph..., http://www.hhcc.com/?p=450 http://www.hhcc.com/?p=450) but nothing seems to really go very deep. It is always "users are too small a population to worry" but it is always a good idea to start thinking now on this before it becomes a problem.
- pavelludiq 18y ago
  I hate ads. Even if i didn't have AdBlock Plus or flashblock, i still would just ignore them. Internet users seem to be good at that. They are annoying and sometimes if there is too many of them they make Firefox slow(i usually have 20+ tabs open) Ads are broken, and users don't care about them. And those little Google ads, i don't read them, i know they're ads and don't even look at them.
  - axod 18y ago
    Don't be ridiculous. Ads work. People click on them. Sites make millions. Ads are useful to the users, providing links you might not usually see. Sure there are irritating flash popup music ads, but they are just spam.
- axod 18y ago
  I don't think there is all that much correlation to be honest between firefox, and adblock. I've used firefox for years but would never dream of installing adblock. I can see there's a sort of person that would, probably the same people who like to tell you how they don't own a TV... Also, adblock only blocks irritating 'obvious' adverts. There's a ton of adverts you wouldn't even recognize as being adverts. "Ad-Blocking" isn't really a threat to the net.
  - 18y ago
mdasen 18y ago
There's a part of me that just simply doesn't care about these metrics anymore. It's not like the early days where the non-techies were suspicious or when websites were being created IE-only. The web is just very different - partially thanks to FF - but do you see the web looking different when FF is at 30% vs 20%? Sites now do accommodate multiple browsers. We aren't going to get to a situation where we stop supporting IE as long as it's the default install on Windows. Is there progress to be made (in a way that changes my experience as an FF user)? By that I mean, when FF was at >1%, lots of sites didn't work right for me. That changed as FF grew larger. Do you think a jump from 20% to 30% would help me?
- ken 18y ago
  If IE6 were to drop below epsilon, it would greatly help me.
- jackchristopher 18y ago
  I use FF because it's better. But also for political reasons. Using other browsers prevents a monopoly, and helps the evolution of the web.
azharcs 18y ago
I think Firefox has increased the market-share mainly because of launch of Firefox 3 before the launch of IE 8, also Firefox got very good press before the launch. I think we can come to a good conclusion only when IE 8 launches. If it is good enough, i am sure lot of people will switch to IE.
urlwolf 18y ago
I wonder what Opera would be getting if they actually listened to their users. Plus, right now any site with fancy AJAX would have some rendering/performing problem under opera (most of google stuff does, not gmail though). So that's another terrible sin. I love Opera and think they deserve more success, but somewhere up in their hierarchy someone is making all the wrong decisions.
gscott 18y ago
I have noticed in my web stats FireFox is now even with Internet Explorer 6 http://www.officezilla.com/most_used_browsers.png http://www.officezilla.com/most_used_browsers.png IE7 32.23%, FireFox 29.09%, IE 6 25.94%
chengmi 18y ago
SearchYC.com stats: Firefox 75.7% Safari 12.9% IE 7.6% Opera 2.2% Mozilla 1.3% Other 0.3%

18 points by prakash 18y ago

Good. Slowly, but surely...

e.g. FF is already #1 in .hu Firefox 48.9% Internet Explorer 46.8% http://www.adverticum.com/article/1063/ http://www.adverticum.com/article/1063/

nostrademons 18y ago

It's kinda funny how it differs between different market segments. Diffle (casual games, launched on Digg) had 90% of its visitors use IE and only about 7% on Firefox, while WhatShallIDoNow (to-do list, launched on news.YC) has 70% of its visitors on FireFox with less than 10% on IE. In the first hour after launch - when it was just news.YC traffic - there were a couple hundred Firefox hits and one visitor with IE.

mattmaroon 18y ago
Who is the bastard reading this site in IE? I'm the closest thing to a MS fanboy in these parts, and I've been using Mozilla since it was called Phoenix.
- jmatt 18y ago
  Probably a web developer that happened to have IE up at the time. I've worked at a fortune 500 company whose IT departments won't allow Firefox. Security concerns was the official reason. Needless to say, I'm not there any more.
- johns 18y ago
  I had issues with FF2, so I went to IE7 when it launched. It wasn't so bad and I actually thought it was beneficial to be running the same platform the majority of my users were running. But eventually I couldn't take it anymore, and FF3 came out so I've switched back.
- ph0rque 18y ago
  It's the only browser allowed at my day job :-/
- msg 18y ago
  I'm on IE7 at work. I am a little too lazy to go through the paperwork to get Firefox on. For a while I was forced to use IE6. I'll give this to IE7, it's no IE6.

sosuke 18y ago

As Firefox gains in popularity and the ever popular AdBlock Plus being a regular fixture for installations I wonder if anyone has done any research or speculation into what effect this will have on the internet free with ads based revenue that so many people have built their success around. So to get off my own butt and google it I found a few articles that talk about the same issue (http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2007/09/adblock_plus_th.php http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2007/09/adblock_plus_th.ph..., http://www.hhcc.com/?p=450 http://www.hhcc.com/?p=450) but nothing seems to really go very deep. It is always "users are too small a population to worry" but it is always a good idea to start thinking now on this before it becomes a problem.

pavelludiq 18y ago
I hate ads. Even if i didn't have AdBlock Plus or flashblock, i still would just ignore them. Internet users seem to be good at that. They are annoying and sometimes if there is too many of them they make Firefox slow(i usually have 20+ tabs open) Ads are broken, and users don't care about them. And those little Google ads, i don't read them, i know they're ads and don't even look at them.
- axod 18y ago
  Don't be ridiculous. Ads work. People click on them. Sites make millions. Ads are useful to the users, providing links you might not usually see. Sure there are irritating flash popup music ads, but they are just spam.
axod 18y ago
I don't think there is all that much correlation to be honest between firefox, and adblock. I've used firefox for years but would never dream of installing adblock. I can see there's a sort of person that would, probably the same people who like to tell you how they don't own a TV... Also, adblock only blocks irritating 'obvious' adverts. There's a ton of adverts you wouldn't even recognize as being adverts. "Ad-Blocking" isn't really a threat to the net.
- 18y ago

mdasen 18y ago

There's a part of me that just simply doesn't care about these metrics anymore. It's not like the early days where the non-techies were suspicious or when websites were being created IE-only. The web is just very different - partially thanks to FF - but do you see the web looking different when FF is at 30% vs 20%? Sites now do accommodate multiple browsers. We aren't going to get to a situation where we stop supporting IE as long as it's the default install on Windows. Is there progress to be made (in a way that changes my experience as an FF user)? By that I mean, when FF was at >1%, lots of sites didn't work right for me. That changed as FF grew larger. Do you think a jump from 20% to 30% would help me?

ken 18y ago
If IE6 were to drop below epsilon, it would greatly help me.
jackchristopher 18y ago
I use FF because it's better. But also for political reasons. Using other browsers prevents a monopoly, and helps the evolution of the web.

azharcs 18y ago

I think Firefox has increased the market-share mainly because of launch of Firefox 3 before the launch of IE 8, also Firefox got very good press before the launch. I think we can come to a good conclusion only when IE 8 launches. If it is good enough, i am sure lot of people will switch to IE.

urlwolf 18y ago

I wonder what Opera would be getting if they actually listened to their users. Plus, right now any site with fancy AJAX would have some rendering/performing problem under opera (most of google stuff does, not gmail though). So that's another terrible sin. I love Opera and think they deserve more success, but somewhere up in their hierarchy someone is making all the wrong decisions.

gscott 18y ago

I have noticed in my web stats FireFox is now even with Internet Explorer 6 http://www.officezilla.com/most_used_browsers.png http://www.officezilla.com/most_used_browsers.png IE7 32.23%, FireFox 29.09%, IE 6 25.94%

chengmi 18y ago

SearchYC.com stats: Firefox 75.7% Safari 12.9% IE 7.6% Opera 2.2% Mozilla 1.3% Other 0.3%