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Every country should create its own region where people who don't want to be under government's rule can leave to. It's too easy to say 'leave your country if y

Every country should create its own region where people who don't want to be under government's rule can leave to. It's too easy to say 'leave your country if you don't like it'. It's the same or worse everywhere else. There's no free land anymore. Almost everything livable space on Earth is claimed by governments.

dgellow 6y ago
Ironically a strong government is what allows to enforce and defend individual freedoms. The same way the GPL only works because the intellectual property laws are strong.
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- miguelrochefort 6y ago
  GPL is the antithesis of freedom.
  - dgellow 6y ago
    The GPL guarantees very specific freedoms for users by limiting and regulating what developers can and have to do.
everdrive 6y ago
These regions would bleed extremism into the government controlled areas. This isn't a theoretical, we have live examples. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federally_Administered_Tribal_Areas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federally_Administered_Tribal_...
- dennis_jeeves 6y ago
  So that's a large article, mind putting a summary?
  - everdrive 6y ago
    Here's an excerpt from the article: "Since the 9/11 attacks in the United States in 2001, the tribal areas are a major theatre of militancy and terrorism. Pakistan Army launched 10 operations against the Taliban since 2001, most recently Operation Zarb-e-Azb in North Waziristan. The operations have displaced about two million people from the tribal areas, as schools, hospitals, and homes have been destroyed in the war.[1]" [edit] A quick internet search also suggest a number of other articles in other areas: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22autonomous+region%22+violent+extremism&t=ffab&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22autonomous+region%22+violent+ex...
    - Hani1337 6y ago
      I'm not sure comparing a terrorist state and an autonomous community is a fair comparison. The land would still be government's properly and they could probably still enforce peace, but that region could do away with any other legislation, regulations, taxes, as well as financial helps from the state. There are a few independant autonomous communities throughout Europe already, but nothing at a really large scale. They could use that opportunity to test new forms of democracy and economy.
rchaud 6y ago
>Every country should create its own region where people who don't want to be under government's rule can leave to Any such territory would become a failed state almost immediately. The eventual outcome will be for it to be re-absorbed by the state it split from (see East and West Germany), or become a puppet state of a larger neighbour that supports it financially for its own geopolitical ends (North Korea). If the basis of any territory is opposition to centralized government, it's safe to assume that the people it attracts are also ideologically opposed to state-provided services like roads, streetlights, police. Of course these are ideological objections, and they tend to disappear once it becomes clear what the reality of living in an 'every man for himself' society is like. The settler's options then are to either rebuild these services from scratch, or partner up with a neighbour state to leverage their infrastructure.

dgellow 6y ago

Ironically a strong government is what allows to enforce and defend individual freedoms. The same way the GPL only works because the intellectual property laws are strong.

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miguelrochefort 6y ago
GPL is the antithesis of freedom.
- dgellow 6y ago
  The GPL guarantees very specific freedoms for users by limiting and regulating what developers can and have to do.

everdrive 6y ago

These regions would bleed extremism into the government controlled areas. This isn't a theoretical, we have live examples. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federally_Administered_Tribal_Areas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federally_Administered_Tribal_...

dennis_jeeves 6y ago
So that's a large article, mind putting a summary?
- everdrive 6y ago
  Here's an excerpt from the article: "Since the 9/11 attacks in the United States in 2001, the tribal areas are a major theatre of militancy and terrorism. Pakistan Army launched 10 operations against the Taliban since 2001, most recently Operation Zarb-e-Azb in North Waziristan. The operations have displaced about two million people from the tribal areas, as schools, hospitals, and homes have been destroyed in the war.[1]" [edit] A quick internet search also suggest a number of other articles in other areas: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22autonomous+region%22+violent+extremism&t=ffab&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%22autonomous+region%22+violent+ex...
  - Hani1337 6y ago
    I'm not sure comparing a terrorist state and an autonomous community is a fair comparison. The land would still be government's properly and they could probably still enforce peace, but that region could do away with any other legislation, regulations, taxes, as well as financial helps from the state. There are a few independant autonomous communities throughout Europe already, but nothing at a really large scale. They could use that opportunity to test new forms of democracy and economy.

rchaud 6y ago

>Every country should create its own region where people who don't want to be under government's rule can leave to Any such territory would become a failed state almost immediately. The eventual outcome will be for it to be re-absorbed by the state it split from (see East and West Germany), or become a puppet state of a larger neighbour that supports it financially for its own geopolitical ends (North Korea). If the basis of any territory is opposition to centralized government, it's safe to assume that the people it attracts are also ideologically opposed to state-provided services like roads, streetlights, police. Of course these are ideological objections, and they tend to disappear once it becomes clear what the reality of living in an 'every man for himself' society is like. The settler's options then are to either rebuild these services from scratch, or partner up with a neighbour state to leverage their infrastructure.