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Sorry, but you're wrong. The question of bias in the BBC is pertinent. The whole of the exec team are Conservative donors. Modern Britain was "racially diverse

Sorry, but you're wrong. The question of bias in the BBC is pertinent. The whole of the exec team are Conservative donors. Modern Britain was "racially diverse, mixed culture" up until the day fully half the country decided to turn insular and vote for Brexit. Which allowed the racist, bigoted and hateful half of the country to feel like they could voice their opinions without consequence.

ggm 6y ago
The exec don't define editorial policy at this level of granularity. You're just being hyperbolic. Reportage by the BBC is not subject to the kind of whims Rupert Murdoch brings to news Ltd press. The BBC is no angel but suggesting this is the home office, number 10 or the foreign office using the old Boys network in the tory party establishment to serve one out on America is stupid. Sorry, but I'm neither sorry, nor wrong. Your opinion is not more valid than mine. Brexit did not end racial diversity in Britain. Rishi Sunak did not instantly disappear, nor did Dianne Abbott.
- robinduckett 6y ago
  > The exec don't define editorial policy at this level of granularity. Are you sure about that? There's no "keeping editorial policy unbiased" committee at the BBC - They're funded by the government and licensees who get seemingly no say in the editorial policy. > You're just being hyperbolic Perhaps > Reportage by the BBC is not subject to the kind of whims Rupert Murdoch brings to news Ltd press. Now you're just being silly, of course it is, it's just the whims of more people than just one person. > The BBC is no angel but suggesting this is the home office, number 10 or the foreign office using the old Boys network in the tory party establishment to serve one out on America is stupid. Have you been living under a rock, or has the whole cronyism scandal of the last year gone completely unnoticed by the British masses/ > Sorry, but I'm neither sorry, nor wrong. Your opinion is not more valid than mine. Categorically incorrect. Opinions are funny things, like if it was my opinion that I could jump and miss the ground and fly off into space, that opinion is a) up for debate and b) can be proven wrong. Your opinion is that Britain is a) modern, b) has modern ideals, c) is culturally diverse, d) is racially diverse It depends on your definitions of the meanings of "diverse" but I'm sure a quick googling of the racial demographics of the UK would prove otherwise. Britain certainly tries to be modern, whilst literally being ruled by a Monarchy. So I don't think your argument holds much water. > Brexit did not end racial diversity in Britain. Rishi Sunak did not instantly disappear, nor did Dianne Abbott. Now you're being hyperbolic.
goatinaboat 6y ago
up until the day fully half the country decided to turn insular and vote for Brexit We have the most racially diverse Cabinet ever, elected by a massive majority. Priti and Rishi enjoy huge popularity. Your narrative doesn’t match reality.
- robinduckett 6y ago
  Imagine thinking the Conservatives are racially diverse for anything other than point winning, ouch.
  - goatinaboat 6y ago
    Imagine thinking the Conservatives are racially diverse for anything other than point winning, ouch You really think neither of them are there on merit? Conversely, do you think that Dawn Butler and David Lammy are?
    - robinduckett 6y ago
      The problem is with this line of reasoning is that won't work on me because I have dealt with an overly conservative family and government for years. People have merits sure, but they also have agendas.
  - yerwhat01010 6y ago
    Imagine being so racist that you think any non-white person who holds conservative opinions has no agency and is just a pawn being used by his white masters.
    - robinduckett 6y ago
      Oooh I love that I'm being accused of racism :)
- alfredlind 6y ago
  > We have the most racially diverse Cabinet ever, elected by a massive majority. Priti and Rishi enjoy huge popularity. insular = ignorant of or uninterested in cultures, ideas, or peoples outside one's own experience. I have examined Priti Patel's statements and behavior. Her moral and cultural compass would be what I would exactly define as insular. For example, going on TV justifying applying the death penalty to innocent people which predominantly affects minority populations. I would strongly suggest watching this short clip of her talking about this in such a ridiculous way. She keeps repeating the phrase "does what it says on the tin" and "ultimate burden of proof" to justify killing innocent people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrsVhzbLzU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrsVhzbLzU She's also on record supporting any and all of Israeli policies without accountability. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrsVhzbLzU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrsVhzbLzU She's on record bullying people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrsVhzbLzU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrsVhzbLzU She's on record making unsubstantiated claims that minorities were refusing vaccines when the data and polling suggests otherwise and some evidence even suggests that authorities are purposely using that as an excuse to deny giving vaccines to minority populations. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/priti-patel-downing-street-covid19-briefing-b856071.html https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/priti-patel-downing-s... , https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9316345/Comedian-Paul-Chowdhry-reveals-mother-died-denied-Covid-vaccine.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9316345/Comedi... In short, Priti Patel is a pretty insular personality, ie: a person who just happens to have brown skin but in fact reflect a highly insular conservative viewpoint. "Model" minorities such as her are often used by power structures to justify further reinforcement of highly biased policies that perpetuate a cycle of disenfranchisement. In other words, having a "racially diverse cabinet" doesn't mean anything if they all share the same Etonian viewpoints of how the world should be structured and society should be structured and how and where resources should be expended.
yerwhat01010 6y ago
Goddamn those racist Brexiteers, voting to end an immigration system that gives preferential treatment to white Europeans.
- robinduckett 6y ago
  It's like everyone on this site lives under rocks XD * Brexit has cost more money than we'd ever see benefit for * A whole policy based on xenophobia, regardless of "white Europeans" getting the short end of the Brexit stick * Attacks on europeans throughout the entire debacle by emboldened racist Brexiteers * People were significantly lied to through fearmongering and nationalism
  - Chris2048 6y ago
    > Brexit has cost more money than we'd ever see benefit for almost as if not motivated by greed? > policy based on xenophobia, regardless of "white Europeans" getting the short end of the Brexit stick it's you're assertion that it's "based on xenophobia", and the "white Europeans" aspect is counter-evidence > Attacks on europeans throughout the entire debacle by emboldened racist Brexiteers any proof of that? www.spectator.co.uk/article/hate-crime-is-up---but-it-s-not-fair-to-blame-brexit Does "lives under rocks" mean "Doesn't trust the same newspaper I read"?

ggm 6y ago

The exec don't define editorial policy at this level of granularity. You're just being hyperbolic. Reportage by the BBC is not subject to the kind of whims Rupert Murdoch brings to news Ltd press. The BBC is no angel but suggesting this is the home office, number 10 or the foreign office using the old Boys network in the tory party establishment to serve one out on America is stupid. Sorry, but I'm neither sorry, nor wrong. Your opinion is not more valid than mine. Brexit did not end racial diversity in Britain. Rishi Sunak did not instantly disappear, nor did Dianne Abbott.

robinduckett 6y ago
> The exec don't define editorial policy at this level of granularity. Are you sure about that? There's no "keeping editorial policy unbiased" committee at the BBC - They're funded by the government and licensees who get seemingly no say in the editorial policy. > You're just being hyperbolic Perhaps > Reportage by the BBC is not subject to the kind of whims Rupert Murdoch brings to news Ltd press. Now you're just being silly, of course it is, it's just the whims of more people than just one person. > The BBC is no angel but suggesting this is the home office, number 10 or the foreign office using the old Boys network in the tory party establishment to serve one out on America is stupid. Have you been living under a rock, or has the whole cronyism scandal of the last year gone completely unnoticed by the British masses/ > Sorry, but I'm neither sorry, nor wrong. Your opinion is not more valid than mine. Categorically incorrect. Opinions are funny things, like if it was my opinion that I could jump and miss the ground and fly off into space, that opinion is a) up for debate and b) can be proven wrong. Your opinion is that Britain is a) modern, b) has modern ideals, c) is culturally diverse, d) is racially diverse It depends on your definitions of the meanings of "diverse" but I'm sure a quick googling of the racial demographics of the UK would prove otherwise. Britain certainly tries to be modern, whilst literally being ruled by a Monarchy. So I don't think your argument holds much water. > Brexit did not end racial diversity in Britain. Rishi Sunak did not instantly disappear, nor did Dianne Abbott. Now you're being hyperbolic.

goatinaboat 6y ago

up until the day fully half the country decided to turn insular and vote for Brexit We have the most racially diverse Cabinet ever, elected by a massive majority. Priti and Rishi enjoy huge popularity. Your narrative doesn’t match reality.

robinduckett 6y ago
Imagine thinking the Conservatives are racially diverse for anything other than point winning, ouch.
- goatinaboat 6y ago
  Imagine thinking the Conservatives are racially diverse for anything other than point winning, ouch You really think neither of them are there on merit? Conversely, do you think that Dawn Butler and David Lammy are?
  - robinduckett 6y ago
    The problem is with this line of reasoning is that won't work on me because I have dealt with an overly conservative family and government for years. People have merits sure, but they also have agendas.
- yerwhat01010 6y ago
  Imagine being so racist that you think any non-white person who holds conservative opinions has no agency and is just a pawn being used by his white masters.
  - robinduckett 6y ago
    Oooh I love that I'm being accused of racism :)
alfredlind 6y ago
> We have the most racially diverse Cabinet ever, elected by a massive majority. Priti and Rishi enjoy huge popularity. insular = ignorant of or uninterested in cultures, ideas, or peoples outside one's own experience. I have examined Priti Patel's statements and behavior. Her moral and cultural compass would be what I would exactly define as insular. For example, going on TV justifying applying the death penalty to innocent people which predominantly affects minority populations. I would strongly suggest watching this short clip of her talking about this in such a ridiculous way. She keeps repeating the phrase "does what it says on the tin" and "ultimate burden of proof" to justify killing innocent people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrsVhzbLzU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrsVhzbLzU She's also on record supporting any and all of Israeli policies without accountability. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrsVhzbLzU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrsVhzbLzU She's on record bullying people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrsVhzbLzU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DrsVhzbLzU She's on record making unsubstantiated claims that minorities were refusing vaccines when the data and polling suggests otherwise and some evidence even suggests that authorities are purposely using that as an excuse to deny giving vaccines to minority populations. https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/priti-patel-downing-street-covid19-briefing-b856071.html https://www.standard.co.uk/news/health/priti-patel-downing-s... , https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9316345/Comedian-Paul-Chowdhry-reveals-mother-died-denied-Covid-vaccine.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9316345/Comedi... In short, Priti Patel is a pretty insular personality, ie: a person who just happens to have brown skin but in fact reflect a highly insular conservative viewpoint. "Model" minorities such as her are often used by power structures to justify further reinforcement of highly biased policies that perpetuate a cycle of disenfranchisement. In other words, having a "racially diverse cabinet" doesn't mean anything if they all share the same Etonian viewpoints of how the world should be structured and society should be structured and how and where resources should be expended.

yerwhat01010 6y ago

Goddamn those racist Brexiteers, voting to end an immigration system that gives preferential treatment to white Europeans.

robinduckett 6y ago
It's like everyone on this site lives under rocks XD * Brexit has cost more money than we'd ever see benefit for * A whole policy based on xenophobia, regardless of "white Europeans" getting the short end of the Brexit stick * Attacks on europeans throughout the entire debacle by emboldened racist Brexiteers * People were significantly lied to through fearmongering and nationalism
- Chris2048 6y ago
  > Brexit has cost more money than we'd ever see benefit for almost as if not motivated by greed? > policy based on xenophobia, regardless of "white Europeans" getting the short end of the Brexit stick it's you're assertion that it's "based on xenophobia", and the "white Europeans" aspect is counter-evidence > Attacks on europeans throughout the entire debacle by emboldened racist Brexiteers any proof of that? www.spectator.co.uk/article/hate-crime-is-up---but-it-s-not-fair-to-blame-brexit Does "lives under rocks" mean "Doesn't trust the same newspaper I read"?