> How are bridges not collapsing left and right from all the incompetent civil engineers they've been hiring with no whiteboard interviews?? What? Other engine

> How are bridges not collapsing left and right from all the incompetent civil engineers they've been hiring with no whiteboard interviews?? What? Other engineering fields have certifications and standards processes that actually mean something, and enforcement of it. That’s how they determine the baseline standard. Software engineering’s closest thing is a 4-year degree who’s so routinely undervalued (per alignment to work requirements) it’s challenged by 3 month bootcamps, which are themselves challenged by garage-living dropouts with no explicit formal education. And traditionally you had near-decade training with an apprentice/master system, or in a trade school, or expected-lifetime employment & training with the same company. Software development is pretty new in trying to force feed training in large quantities with little to no verification, standards process or really any legitimate first or third-party trust-rings or evaluation process. I mean shit we’re still running on the assumption that the 20-year old dropout has decent potential to be an expert in his field ala wiz/gates/carmack. As an industry, I think we’re fairly unique in our general incompetence.