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Maybe mouse-driven computers should be considered touch-based too?

dman 15y ago
I believe an interface is touch based if you use an object to touch the screen to interact with the interface. Mice do not have this property. Given the downvotes I imagine people at HN disagree with this notion, but here are some links that suggest that there is a part of the world which considers stylus based devices as touch based. [1] http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/TouchSystems/TouchScreen/Information/Media/PressReleases/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECFTDQG0U7_assetId=1273678744381 http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/TouchSystems/Tou... [2] http://www.pdapanache.com/stylusfaq.asp http://www.pdapanache.com/stylusfaq.asp [3] http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=354774&dl=ACM&coll=DL&CFID=28130026&CFTOKEN=29744814 http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=354774&dl=ACM&...
- podperson 15y ago
  Not only are you wrong, but your links are to vendors of pens that emulate touch. The vendors aren't arguing that "style = touch" but that "our stylus works on touchscreens" (as opposed to styluses that work on pen-based systems). The fundamental idea of the iPad is that you don't need something else to make it work. It isn't that you mustn't use something else.
  - dman 15y ago
    The third link was not from a vendor. Here are some non vendor links: [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_interface http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_interface - "Touchscreens are displays that accept input by touch of fingers or a stylus. Used in a growing amount of mobile devices and many types of point of sale, industrial processes and machines, self-service machines etc." [2] http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=touch+screen&i=53016,00.asp http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=touch+screen... - "A display screen that is sensitive to the touch of a finger or stylus."
    - podperson 15y ago
      Why not quote Wikipedia's article on "Touch Screen": "A touchscreen is an electronic visual display that can detect the presence and location of a touch within the display area. The term generally refers to touching the display of the device with a finger or hand. Touchscreens can also sense other passive objects, such as a stylus." Oh wait, because it doesn't suit your purposes either.

dman 15y ago

I believe an interface is touch based if you use an object to touch the screen to interact with the interface. Mice do not have this property. Given the downvotes I imagine people at HN disagree with this notion, but here are some links that suggest that there is a part of the world which considers stylus based devices as touch based. [1] http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/TouchSystems/TouchScreen/Information/Media/PressReleases/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECFTDQG0U7_assetId=1273678744381 http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/TouchSystems/Tou... [2] http://www.pdapanache.com/stylusfaq.asp http://www.pdapanache.com/stylusfaq.asp [3] http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=354774&dl=ACM&coll=DL&CFID=28130026&CFTOKEN=29744814 http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=354774&dl=ACM&...

podperson 15y ago
Not only are you wrong, but your links are to vendors of pens that emulate touch. The vendors aren't arguing that "style = touch" but that "our stylus works on touchscreens" (as opposed to styluses that work on pen-based systems). The fundamental idea of the iPad is that you don't need something else to make it work. It isn't that you mustn't use something else.
- dman 15y ago
  The third link was not from a vendor. Here are some non vendor links: [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_interface http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_interface - "Touchscreens are displays that accept input by touch of fingers or a stylus. Used in a growing amount of mobile devices and many types of point of sale, industrial processes and machines, self-service machines etc." [2] http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=touch+screen&i=53016,00.asp http://www.pcmag.com/encyclopedia_term/0,2542,t=touch+screen... - "A display screen that is sensitive to the touch of a finger or stylus."
  - podperson 15y ago
    Why not quote Wikipedia's article on "Touch Screen": "A touchscreen is an electronic visual display that can detect the presence and location of a touch within the display area. The term generally refers to touching the display of the device with a finger or hand. Touchscreens can also sense other passive objects, such as a stylus." Oh wait, because it doesn't suit your purposes either.