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I think the problem is deeper than whiteboard interviews. Too few companies are willing to invest in junior talent. Netflix famously only hires senior-level eng
by xmunoz 6y ago
I think the problem is deeper than whiteboard interviews. Too few companies are willing to invest in junior talent. Netflix famously only hires senior-level engineers, and Facebook has recently offloaded many of their internships to Major League Hacking [1], an exploitative outsourcing platform for unpaid, entry-level labor from developing countries [2]. This is entirely a problem of the tech industry's making.
[1] https://news.mlh.io/introducing-the-mlh-fellowship-externship-09-10-2020 https://news.mlh.io/introducing-the-mlh-fellowship-externshi...
[2] A close friend who was formerly employed by MLH
- tabtab 6y agoRe: "an exploitative outsourcing platform for unpaid, entry-level labor from developing countries..." It hasn't quite happened yet, but the chance of IT going the way of factory workers in the future seems quite high. It's labor intensive but much of it can be done anywhere in the world. If you are lucky, you can be a liaison between management and constantly shifting overseas techies.
- flukus 6y ago> It hasn't quite happened yet This is certainly not for lack of trying. Outsourcing was much more common 10-20 years ago than it is today but a combination of wage growth in outsourced countries and terrible quality has just about seen the end of the practice.
- gumby 6y agoIn Japan, programming / software development has always been a blue collar job.
- tabtab 6y agoSocietal status aside, how does it pay?
- redis_mlc 6y agoVery low - possibly the lowest of any engineering job, since software is not considered engineering in Japan. Also, most employees have to buy their own notebook computers, so you see Windows thickies from the 90s. Source: worked in Tokyo doing field work for 2 months at a major corporation.
- PurpleFoxy 6y agoSounds like it could be a contributing factor to the fact that outside of game dev, there doesn’t seem to be any Japanese made software.
- gumby 6y agoWhat do you mean? There's an enormous amount, in cameras, robots, phones, automobiles and all sorts of electronics.
- fomine3 6y agoTrue but software/firmware on such device is tend to considered to second citizen.
- selimthegrim 6y ago"...on such a device/on such devices tends to be considered a second-class citizen"
- PurpleFoxy 6y agoFirmware and embedded software always feels like it was built in a software sweatshop and not really a priority.
- fomine3 6y agoIt tend to especially on traditional companies, but YMMV. I believe very few traditional company allow BYOD.
- raarts 6y ago> the way of factory workers Note the complete change in software development process towards something resembling an assembly line.
- tabtab 6y agoIf it's reverse engineering an existing application in an obsolete platform and translating almost verbatim into a new platform, it can resemble that. A lot of software work is porting from older platforms.