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You don't have to ask yourself that, you can just accept that the people who you work with will usually be out of your control and respect their skills separate

You don't have to ask yourself that, you can just accept that the people who you work with will usually be out of your control and respect their skills separately from what they look like. If they suck, then they suck, but don't prejudge because you think diversity hiring is rampant everywhere, which it is not.

musingsole 6y ago
> who you work with will usually be out of your control and respect their skills Unless you're in a small company with a substantial ownership stake, not only should you accept the reality of this but also accept that dealing with it is part of your job. Making the best of the team and resources available is part of the job description. If given the reins of the hiring process, a given developer could not do a better job filling out company's a roster. The company has made decisions. Unless you were consulted on those decisions, your opinions aren't desired. Most of the time, your helping of those decisions' consequences will be inline with your responsibility for them: nil (scapegoating happens and shit rolls downhill, but I'd argue both are necessarily rare).
- lambda_obrien 6y ago
  I guess not everyone agrees, since my comment was demolished.
  - musingsole 6y ago
    Upvotes and downvotes are two sides to the same coin of passion! I'm used to my stricter "it's your job" comments getting downvotes. I always assume because they come off as hyper-conservative, bootstraps type language. In this case, I think it's funny because the same mentality results in a more kumbaya attitude in the workplace (it's not my job to pick my coworkers. Whatever their faults, it is my job to succeed anyway). It's the type of thing I'd expect to be a bit of a upvote magnet...but I suppose hating on crappy coworkers trumps warmfuzzies in the HN crowd.

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You don't have to ask yourself that, you can just accept that the people who you work with will usually be out of your control and respect their skills separate

by lambda_obrien 6y ago

musingsole 6y ago
> who you work with will usually be out of your control and respect their skills Unless you're in a small company with a substantial ownership stake, not only should you accept the reality of this but also accept that dealing with it is part of your job. Making the best of the team and resources available is part of the job description. If given the reins of the hiring process, a given developer could not do a better job filling out company's a roster. The company has made decisions. Unless you were consulted on those decisions, your opinions aren't desired. Most of the time, your helping of those decisions' consequences will be inline with your responsibility for them: nil (scapegoating happens and shit rolls downhill, but I'd argue both are necessarily rare).
- lambda_obrien 6y ago
  I guess not everyone agrees, since my comment was demolished.
  - musingsole 6y ago
    Upvotes and downvotes are two sides to the same coin of passion! I'm used to my stricter "it's your job" comments getting downvotes. I always assume because they come off as hyper-conservative, bootstraps type language. In this case, I think it's funny because the same mentality results in a more kumbaya attitude in the workplace (it's not my job to pick my coworkers. Whatever their faults, it is my job to succeed anyway). It's the type of thing I'd expect to be a bit of a upvote magnet...but I suppose hating on crappy coworkers trumps warmfuzzies in the HN crowd.