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No shit, it's just someone's project to get a promotion, again. Nobody cares, nobody will use it, and it'll go into the graveyard in a year or two.

Demigod33 6y ago
Why would it be less successful compared to Apple Pay? Isn't it the same functionality?
- creativeembassy 6y ago
  I used the old Google Pay for both tap-to-pay and for organizing my various membership cards. Gas, grocery, coupons, things like that. Since sticking various memberships cards in it, some of the old physical cards have been lost and I hope the rest are still in my filing cabinet. Because with "new" Google Pay, all of those membership cards are gone. They didn't just not migrate the data over; this isn't a feature present in the new one. I don't see any reason to continue using it. Apple Pay is working better for me for tap-to-pay, and I'm instead trying to replicate some of the old membership card organization with Apple Wallet, albeit without much success yet. (Can't believe we have to use "old"/"new" delimiters here either, while Google gets to pretend it's the same thing.)
  - mattkevan 6y ago
    There's apps that let you add store cards to Apple Wallet. Once added they stay there, even if the app isn't installed.
  - beart 6y ago
    I definitely had my membership cards migrated to the new app. I can see them by clicking on the credit card displayed next to my user icon in the top right. This opens a new screen with the loyalty cards listed at the bottom.
  - abraham 6y ago
    The new app supports membership cards and at least personally they were migrated from the old app. https://support.google.com/googlepay/topic/10167683?hl=en https://support.google.com/googlepay/topic/10167683?hl=en * I work at Google but not on Google Pay
  - mikestew 6y ago
    (Can't believe we have to use "old"/"new" delimiters here either, while Google gets to pretend it's the same thing.) Well, there's also the "old old" Google Pay...or Wallet, or whatever it was called when I tried to use it. That didn't work well, thereby helping to accelerate the end of my Android experiment. But apparently, according to a friend at the time, the new Google Pay worked much better. But not well enough, obviously, because now Google is rolling a "new new" Google Pay. I quit using a lot of Microsoft products because of rebranding bullshit like this. Which one do I use, and why is this one better? Oh, if I'm going to go to all that trouble, I'll just try a different product entirely, then.
curt15 6y ago
Why doesn't management create more incentives to build products/services that last? Pay a "maintenance bonus" to make in someone's financial interest to maintain and improve existing projects.
- spinningslate 6y ago
  Because, as pointed out elsewhere in the discussion, management doesn't care. Ads is so much bigger than everything else - certainly Google Pay - that virtually nothing else even registers on the periphery. Throw in cross-team Not Invented Here syndrome and a desire for promotion and you have the perfect recipe for a regular groundhog day of ephemeral products that arrive in a dazzle and disappear when the wind changes.
conradfr 6y ago
According to this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/lztb4f/the_new_google_pay_repeats_all_the_same_mistakes/gq497ik/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/lztb4f/the_new_goo... > (...) The old GP and the new GP were totally different teams, not even operating out of the same country (old GP was based in SF, USA - new was based out of Singapore). Around fall of 2018 the Singapore team was given complete control over all of Payments at Google due to the success of their app in India. The US based team was completely powerless and had to watch heartbroken as it was decided to shut down their product, the one they had been working on for 10ish years, in favor of the new GP. (...)
- dmix 6y ago
  It's fun to joke about it but it's much sadder hearing a real developer talk about it IRL. Someone whose team worked on the previous Google Pay project for 10yrs(!). Thanks for the link.
  - glogla 6y ago
    I mean they still got hundreds of thousands of dollars for it.
    - dmix 6y ago
      The picture in the article is literally money being flushed down a toilet lol. But yes we all get paid, almost always whether the software (or product) is good or bad or useful to the world.

Demigod33 6y ago

Why would it be less successful compared to Apple Pay? Isn't it the same functionality?

creativeembassy 6y ago
I used the old Google Pay for both tap-to-pay and for organizing my various membership cards. Gas, grocery, coupons, things like that. Since sticking various memberships cards in it, some of the old physical cards have been lost and I hope the rest are still in my filing cabinet. Because with "new" Google Pay, all of those membership cards are gone. They didn't just not migrate the data over; this isn't a feature present in the new one. I don't see any reason to continue using it. Apple Pay is working better for me for tap-to-pay, and I'm instead trying to replicate some of the old membership card organization with Apple Wallet, albeit without much success yet. (Can't believe we have to use "old"/"new" delimiters here either, while Google gets to pretend it's the same thing.)
- mattkevan 6y ago
  There's apps that let you add store cards to Apple Wallet. Once added they stay there, even if the app isn't installed.
- beart 6y ago
  I definitely had my membership cards migrated to the new app. I can see them by clicking on the credit card displayed next to my user icon in the top right. This opens a new screen with the loyalty cards listed at the bottom.
- abraham 6y ago
  The new app supports membership cards and at least personally they were migrated from the old app. https://support.google.com/googlepay/topic/10167683?hl=en https://support.google.com/googlepay/topic/10167683?hl=en * I work at Google but not on Google Pay
- mikestew 6y ago
  (Can't believe we have to use "old"/"new" delimiters here either, while Google gets to pretend it's the same thing.) Well, there's also the "old old" Google Pay...or Wallet, or whatever it was called when I tried to use it. That didn't work well, thereby helping to accelerate the end of my Android experiment. But apparently, according to a friend at the time, the new Google Pay worked much better. But not well enough, obviously, because now Google is rolling a "new new" Google Pay. I quit using a lot of Microsoft products because of rebranding bullshit like this. Which one do I use, and why is this one better? Oh, if I'm going to go to all that trouble, I'll just try a different product entirely, then.

curt15 6y ago

Why doesn't management create more incentives to build products/services that last? Pay a "maintenance bonus" to make in someone's financial interest to maintain and improve existing projects.

spinningslate 6y ago
Because, as pointed out elsewhere in the discussion, management doesn't care. Ads is so much bigger than everything else - certainly Google Pay - that virtually nothing else even registers on the periphery. Throw in cross-team Not Invented Here syndrome and a desire for promotion and you have the perfect recipe for a regular groundhog day of ephemeral products that arrive in a dazzle and disappear when the wind changes.

conradfr 6y ago

According to this comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/lztb4f/the_new_google_pay_repeats_all_the_same_mistakes/gq497ik/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/lztb4f/the_new_goo... > (...) The old GP and the new GP were totally different teams, not even operating out of the same country (old GP was based in SF, USA - new was based out of Singapore). Around fall of 2018 the Singapore team was given complete control over all of Payments at Google due to the success of their app in India. The US based team was completely powerless and had to watch heartbroken as it was decided to shut down their product, the one they had been working on for 10ish years, in favor of the new GP. (...)

dmix 6y ago
It's fun to joke about it but it's much sadder hearing a real developer talk about it IRL. Someone whose team worked on the previous Google Pay project for 10yrs(!). Thanks for the link.
- glogla 6y ago
  I mean they still got hundreds of thousands of dollars for it.
  - dmix 6y ago
    The picture in the article is literally money being flushed down a toilet lol. But yes we all get paid, almost always whether the software (or product) is good or bad or useful to the world.