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Why is it awesome? I don't think European countries should share energy grids with countries that does not respect human rights such as Israel and Russia.
by bjourne 6y ago
Why is it awesome? I don't think European countries should share energy grids with countries that does not respect human rights such as Israel and Russia.
- sandworm101 6y agoDepends on which way the power flows. Perhaps if Israel becomes depended on European electricity some of its more offensive behaviors can be moderated.
- marshmallow_12 6y agoProbably, everything you are wearing, plus your phone/computer, plus the petrol you put in your car come from countries that abuse human rights, such as china, Saudi Arabia etc.
- forgotmypw17 6y agoaside from simplicity in living, this is the second to top reason why i abandoned buying anything unless it is absolutely necessary...
- marshmallow_12 6y agoHave you checked under the furniture for the paper your password was written on? Do you even have furniture:)
- forgotmypw17 6y agonope, no furniture for about 5 years now
- Cthulhu_ 6y agoThat doesn't mean I (or the person you're replying to) agree with it. I mean I don't agree with US politics and their human rights violations, yet here I am, commenting on a US community on US-designed hardware and US-developed software. "We should improve society somewhat." "Yet you participate in society. Curious!"
- roncohen 6y agoHow do you feel about the EU being connected to the Turkish electricity grid? [1] and Germany being increasingly dependent on Russian gas? [2] [1] https://www.avrupa.info.tr/en/plugging-turkey-eu-electricity-grid-140 https://www.avrupa.info.tr/en/plugging-turkey-eu-electricity... [2] https://www.dw.com/en/nord-stream-2-pipeline-row-highlights-germanys-energy-dependence-on-russia/a-47344788 https://www.dw.com/en/nord-stream-2-pipeline-row-highlights-...
- bjourne 6y agoDidn't I cover that in my comment? I feel that that is bad. But I also feel that the whataboutism argument is overused when it comes to Israel. We should minimize our incidental support of repressive regimes wherever they are found. Especially when we are explicitly called on to do so (see BDS) by those oppressed by such repressive regimes.
- jraby3 6y agoIsrael does respect human rights. It also has the right to protect its citizens and borders.
- Cthulhu_ 6y agoEven if it used force to establish said borders in the first place? Israel as the nation we know today only came about fairly recently, and it was only established as a modern-day state in 1948.
- dogma1138 6y agoAll borders were established by force... Israel is just more recent, about as recent as every other nation in that region. Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and essentially every other nation in the region was formed around the same period. The issue is that unlike other cases they were never left to their own devices and let sort their own shit out.
- eli_gottlieb 6y agoTell me, when was the unification of Germany, and how did its borders get the way they are now? I seem to recall some unpleasantness with American and British planes.
- ravenstine 6y agoThey took over someone else's land because of a cultural/religious belief that they need an ethnostate. I'm sure that they protect their citizens and their borders, and almost every country would say the same. That doesn't mean they didn't bring localized conflict upon themselves by disrespecting the rights of others.
- cblconfederate 6y agoTurn off your computer and stop using the internet because someone's rights have definitely been violated for you to read this comment.