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Greece, Cyprus and Israel are natural allies in the geo political oneupsmanship that is the middle east. Israel provides the technology and protection to execut

Greece, Cyprus and Israel are natural allies in the geo political oneupsmanship that is the middle east. Israel provides the technology and protection to execute this maneuver.

RobertoG 6y ago
I think you are underestimating greatly Greece military capabilities with that comment.
- siculars 6y ago
  No, I’m fairly confident in that comment. Any ranking of military capabilities on virtually any dimension puts Israel in a higher tier than Greece. https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2018/02/26/ten-strongest-military-forces-middle-east/amp/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2018/02/26/ten-st... https://ceoworld.biz/2020/03/03/ranked-military-strength-of-nations-2020-comparing-global-armed-forces/ https://ceoworld.biz/2020/03/03/ranked-military-strength-of-...
  - herodoturtle 6y ago
    > Any ranking of military capabilities on virtually any dimension puts Israel in a higher tier than Greece. Those rankings are accurate when looking through the lens of "how many offensive resources do they have", but when you say "on virtually any dimension" I think one needs to also take geography into account. For example Switzerland is also ranked well below Israel, but good luck invading the Swiss on their home turf.
    - ceejayoz 6y ago
      Switzerland isn't a great example; they're on friendly enough terms with the EU their air force had 8-5 office hours until a few years ago. https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2014/feb/19/swiss-air-force-ethiopian-airlines-hijacking-office-hours https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2014/feb/19/swis... Israel is... not in a comparable "surrounded by friendly democracies" scenario.
    - mhh__ 6y ago
      The Swiss thing is a weird one because anyone who actually wants to invade Switzerland is probably going to be mad enough to just start bombing all the civilians with nerve gas or similar. The Swiss air force for example consists of some F-5s and some regular Hornets so I wouldn't bet on them for long either.
  - tim333 6y ago
    Greece is part of both NATO and the EU which would likely be an issue for anyone going military on them.
- ocschwar 6y ago
  Apples and oranges. It's been 2200 years since Jews and Greeks last fought, and both sides aim to keep it that way. Israel has 0 island-hopping capabilities compared to Greece's ability to patrol its Aegean waters.
  - marshmallow_12 6y ago
    Israel has a navy, and nuclear-fitted subs allegedly.
    - newsclues 6y ago
      Navy’s aren’t interchangeable. Is real has many costal patrol ships and a few subs. The Greeks have a navy suitable for their archipelago waters
      - ocschwar 6y ago
        Israel could do Greece a favor send some IDF forces to play as the Turks and war game a land invasion on the Thracian border. It would be a useful exercise for Greece because Israel's infantry capabilities map closer to Turkey's than to Greece's.
        elorant 6y ago
        Greece and Israel do a joint military exercise each year on the Greek peninsula. Mostly land and air forces.
    - kuschku 6y ago
      Israel and Greece even use the same dieselhydroelectric TKMS submarines (just Israel using a special larger version with special features).
  - throwaway894345 6y ago
    > It's been 2200 years since Jews and Greeks last fought Which conflict was that?
koheripbal 6y ago
Since this is a counter to Turkish influence, it is a good thing
cobookman 6y ago
Israel also just signed a bunch of peace deals. With this network easily expanded to those countries. So long as Israel plans for a future where such arrangements get rescinded, they could safely operate an energy market across the middle east and parts of Europe. Could be a good counter way to counter russian oil, and pave way for a very lucrative post-oil society. Middle eastern countries have a lot of solar and empty land for energy-storage. With many of these middle eastern countries having the capital for large green-tech investments.

Greece, Cyprus and Israel are natural allies in the geo political oneupsmanship that is the middle east. Israel provides the technology and protection to execute this maneuver.

RobertoG 6y ago

I think you are underestimating greatly Greece military capabilities with that comment.

siculars 6y ago
No, I’m fairly confident in that comment. Any ranking of military capabilities on virtually any dimension puts Israel in a higher tier than Greece. https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2018/02/26/ten-strongest-military-forces-middle-east/amp/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2018/02/26/ten-st... https://ceoworld.biz/2020/03/03/ranked-military-strength-of-nations-2020-comparing-global-armed-forces/ https://ceoworld.biz/2020/03/03/ranked-military-strength-of-...
- herodoturtle 6y ago
  > Any ranking of military capabilities on virtually any dimension puts Israel in a higher tier than Greece. Those rankings are accurate when looking through the lens of "how many offensive resources do they have", but when you say "on virtually any dimension" I think one needs to also take geography into account. For example Switzerland is also ranked well below Israel, but good luck invading the Swiss on their home turf.
  - ceejayoz 6y ago
    Switzerland isn't a great example; they're on friendly enough terms with the EU their air force had 8-5 office hours until a few years ago. https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2014/feb/19/swiss-air-force-ethiopian-airlines-hijacking-office-hours https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2014/feb/19/swis... Israel is... not in a comparable "surrounded by friendly democracies" scenario.
  - mhh__ 6y ago
    The Swiss thing is a weird one because anyone who actually wants to invade Switzerland is probably going to be mad enough to just start bombing all the civilians with nerve gas or similar. The Swiss air force for example consists of some F-5s and some regular Hornets so I wouldn't bet on them for long either.
- tim333 6y ago
  Greece is part of both NATO and the EU which would likely be an issue for anyone going military on them.
ocschwar 6y ago
Apples and oranges. It's been 2200 years since Jews and Greeks last fought, and both sides aim to keep it that way. Israel has 0 island-hopping capabilities compared to Greece's ability to patrol its Aegean waters.
- marshmallow_12 6y ago
  Israel has a navy, and nuclear-fitted subs allegedly.
  - newsclues 6y ago
    Navy’s aren’t interchangeable. Is real has many costal patrol ships and a few subs. The Greeks have a navy suitable for their archipelago waters
    - ocschwar 6y ago
      Israel could do Greece a favor send some IDF forces to play as the Turks and war game a land invasion on the Thracian border. It would be a useful exercise for Greece because Israel's infantry capabilities map closer to Turkey's than to Greece's.
      - elorant 6y ago
        Greece and Israel do a joint military exercise each year on the Greek peninsula. Mostly land and air forces.
  - kuschku 6y ago
    Israel and Greece even use the same dieselhydroelectric TKMS submarines (just Israel using a special larger version with special features).
- throwaway894345 6y ago
  > It's been 2200 years since Jews and Greeks last fought Which conflict was that?

koheripbal 6y ago

Since this is a counter to Turkish influence, it is a good thing

cobookman 6y ago

Israel also just signed a bunch of peace deals. With this network easily expanded to those countries. So long as Israel plans for a future where such arrangements get rescinded, they could safely operate an energy market across the middle east and parts of Europe. Could be a good counter way to counter russian oil, and pave way for a very lucrative post-oil society. Middle eastern countries have a lot of solar and empty land for energy-storage. With many of these middle eastern countries having the capital for large green-tech investments.