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People keep making this argument, but if you go out and try and get an Android phone, it’s more likely to be Samsung or one of the Chinese brands. Even with ent

People keep making this argument, but if you go out and try and get an Android phone, it’s more likely to be Samsung or one of the Chinese brands. Even with enthusiasts Android is a commodity phone. You min-max price and features more often than not because there’s no lock in to an ecosystem.

xorcist 6y ago
Why buy a Samsung when Oneplus is just as cheap, and not complete junk?
- genericstorage3 6y ago
  Design...
  - effingwewt 6y ago
    Not just design. I was so excited to get a 5g oneplus 8,I'd heard great things about the 7 and 7t. Well I went through three of them with T-mobile and all 3 had serious issues which varied, but all 3 had a very serious battery issue. All 3 phones were new out of box, and all 3 needed to be charged multiple times per day, probably about 4 with light use. All 3 got hot, and I believe the culprit on all 3 was the front screen fingerprint reader. Upon checking advanced battery usage tab, screen took up 98% of the battery, something I've never even heard of. Constant random reboots, loss of signal and having to reboot to re-obtain, so hot it was uncomfortable to hold or have in pocket. I thought about getting a 7t McLaren or whatever, but decided against it due to lack if 5g at the time. I really hope they ironed out the issues because I'm definitely over Samsung and can't wait to get rid of my current S20+. And the 8 was really a joy to use, wasn't even the pro version and seemed far faster than my s20. Shoot, it took me three failures to finally be forced to try another phone. Edit: fix words.
    - elsombrero 6y ago
      I have a OnePlus 8t since last october and have not found any issue on the battery side. On the contrary I'm quite pleased with battery management since i can charge it in 30 minutes from 0 to almost 100%, so usually i just charge it for 5-10 minutes and I can use it all day easily. With full charge on average I get around a day or two without recharging with mostly firefox, youtube, messaging apps open and some light gaming. Battery saving mode gets me almost 1 hour more of usage when I'm at 15% Haven't really had any signal problems and 5g isn't that much of an improvement around where I live so it's not really a concern for me but ymmv
- Sebb767 6y ago
  Well, for one they just had to jump aboard the bandwagon and drop the headphone jack. Samsung did that too on some models, but at least they still have the option.
neltnerb 6y ago
I mean, I'm not everyone but I can and do both buy and recommend phones with close to stock android, even if they are more expensive. Like Sony and Motorola used to be pretty good about that. Problem is, it's hard to search those phone finder sites for "Android purity" so I have to dig deep to find out how bad it will even be. The more fancy features listed on the manufacturers marketing page the more confident I can be that the features are all preinstalled spyware that might offer a cute gimmick as a bribe, at best.

xorcist 6y ago

Why buy a Samsung when Oneplus is just as cheap, and not complete junk?

genericstorage3 6y ago
Design...
- effingwewt 6y ago
  Not just design. I was so excited to get a 5g oneplus 8,I'd heard great things about the 7 and 7t. Well I went through three of them with T-mobile and all 3 had serious issues which varied, but all 3 had a very serious battery issue. All 3 phones were new out of box, and all 3 needed to be charged multiple times per day, probably about 4 with light use. All 3 got hot, and I believe the culprit on all 3 was the front screen fingerprint reader. Upon checking advanced battery usage tab, screen took up 98% of the battery, something I've never even heard of. Constant random reboots, loss of signal and having to reboot to re-obtain, so hot it was uncomfortable to hold or have in pocket. I thought about getting a 7t McLaren or whatever, but decided against it due to lack if 5g at the time. I really hope they ironed out the issues because I'm definitely over Samsung and can't wait to get rid of my current S20+. And the 8 was really a joy to use, wasn't even the pro version and seemed far faster than my s20. Shoot, it took me three failures to finally be forced to try another phone. Edit: fix words.
  - elsombrero 6y ago
    I have a OnePlus 8t since last october and have not found any issue on the battery side. On the contrary I'm quite pleased with battery management since i can charge it in 30 minutes from 0 to almost 100%, so usually i just charge it for 5-10 minutes and I can use it all day easily. With full charge on average I get around a day or two without recharging with mostly firefox, youtube, messaging apps open and some light gaming. Battery saving mode gets me almost 1 hour more of usage when I'm at 15% Haven't really had any signal problems and 5g isn't that much of an improvement around where I live so it's not really a concern for me but ymmv
Sebb767 6y ago
Well, for one they just had to jump aboard the bandwagon and drop the headphone jack. Samsung did that too on some models, but at least they still have the option.

neltnerb 6y ago

I mean, I'm not everyone but I can and do both buy and recommend phones with close to stock android, even if they are more expensive. Like Sony and Motorola used to be pretty good about that. Problem is, it's hard to search those phone finder sites for "Android purity" so I have to dig deep to find out how bad it will even be. The more fancy features listed on the manufacturers marketing page the more confident I can be that the features are all preinstalled spyware that might offer a cute gimmick as a bribe, at best.