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> every inhabitant of a country is entitled to that excellent healthcare This isn't always true.. In some of these free healthcare countries you can be SOL if

> every inhabitant of a country is entitled to that excellent healthcare This isn't always true.. In some of these free healthcare countries you can be SOL if you get cancer or a rare condition and don't have money for the latest treatments. Here in New Zealand the wait times are so long that a lot of people just pay for private surgery/screening. My father for example was out of work for almost a year waiting for a hip operation, he irrationally thought he was getting a good deal having it publicly funded.

gspr 6y ago
> In some of these free healthcare countries you can be SOL if you get cancer or a rare condition and don't have money for the latest treatments. Here in New Zealand the wait times are so long that a lot of people just pay for private surgery/screening. That is indeed a problem. How does giving up and saying "the rich or well-insured can get these things, the poor not" help in any way shape or form?
c0l0 6y ago
Tell me then, please, how you fare in these other, non-free healthcare countries if you get cancer or a rare condition and don't have money for the latest treatments.
- tootahe45 6y ago
  Presumably you'd have a healthcare plan of some sort, one which politicians have mandated over the years to cover practically everything. You might also keep some savings for this thanks to the fear mongering on MSM, whereas it would be rare to do so in a free healthcare country.
  - gspr 6y ago
    > Presumably you'd have a healthcare plan of some sort, one which politicians have mandated over the years to cover practically everything. And if you can't afford that plan?
kwhitefoot 6y ago
> if you get cancer or a rare condition and don't have money for the latest treatments. If you haven't got the money you won't be able afford those treatments in the US either and the insurance companies have caps on how much they will pay. So for some rare cases European national health services are not better than the US.
that_guy_iain 6y ago
> In some of these free healthcare countries you can be SOL if you get cancer or a rare condition and don't have money for the latest treatments. Translates if you want to have cutting edge treatments that haven't gone through medical processes to see if they're safe. Or if the chances of the treatment working is too low.
k33n 6y ago
Just showing up to gloat about all the money I made on GME this week. :) Turns out all your hot air was just ignorance. Maybe you’re not a very good judge of who is irrational and who isn’t :D

gspr 6y ago

> In some of these free healthcare countries you can be SOL if you get cancer or a rare condition and don't have money for the latest treatments. Here in New Zealand the wait times are so long that a lot of people just pay for private surgery/screening. That is indeed a problem. How does giving up and saying "the rich or well-insured can get these things, the poor not" help in any way shape or form?

c0l0 6y ago

Tell me then, please, how you fare in these other, non-free healthcare countries if you get cancer or a rare condition and don't have money for the latest treatments.

tootahe45 6y ago
Presumably you'd have a healthcare plan of some sort, one which politicians have mandated over the years to cover practically everything. You might also keep some savings for this thanks to the fear mongering on MSM, whereas it would be rare to do so in a free healthcare country.
- gspr 6y ago
  > Presumably you'd have a healthcare plan of some sort, one which politicians have mandated over the years to cover practically everything. And if you can't afford that plan?

kwhitefoot 6y ago

> if you get cancer or a rare condition and don't have money for the latest treatments. If you haven't got the money you won't be able afford those treatments in the US either and the insurance companies have caps on how much they will pay. So for some rare cases European national health services are not better than the US.

that_guy_iain 6y ago

> In some of these free healthcare countries you can be SOL if you get cancer or a rare condition and don't have money for the latest treatments. Translates if you want to have cutting edge treatments that haven't gone through medical processes to see if they're safe. Or if the chances of the treatment working is too low.

k33n 6y ago

Just showing up to gloat about all the money I made on GME this week. :) Turns out all your hot air was just ignorance. Maybe you’re not a very good judge of who is irrational and who isn’t :D