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> that's no longer the case. US still haven't established formal diplomatic relation with Taiwan, like all UNSC countries, your argument is simply invalid.

by Koiwai 6y ago

adriancr 6y ago
> US still haven't established formal diplomatic relation with Taiwan, like all UNSC countries, your argument is simply invalid. Here's the result of an invasion by people that have looked into this more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs1ahNtj498 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs1ahNtj498 Here's info on US relationship with taiwan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan%E2%80%93United_States_relations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan%E2%80%93United_States_r... > On July 14, 1982 the Republican Reagan Administration gave specific assurances to Taiwan that the United States did not accept China's claim to sovereignty over the island (Six Assurances),[37][39] > Despite friendly relations with China, United States President George W. Bush was asked on 25 April 2001, "if Taiwan were attacked by China, do we (The U.S.) have an obligation to defend the Taiwanese?" He responded, "Yes, we do...and the Chinese must understand that. The United States would do whatever it took to help Taiwan defend herself."[43] He made it understood that "though we (China and the U.S.) have common interests, the Chinese must understand that there will be some areas where we disagree."[43] Also, you have to be aware that Mao wanted to invade Taiwan but US got in the way then too (ignoring the complete incompetence and inability to launch naval invasion)
- Koiwai 6y ago
  How is that relevant? you claimed things have changed since then, show me the money.
  - adriancr 6y ago
    > How is that relevant? you claimed things have changed since then, show me the money. This is what I said: > US needed China against Russia, that's no longer the case. US no longer needs China against Russia... There's your money... What's hard to understand about that? (USSR is gone, communism is gone, Russia is no longer the superpower it was although it still is a major threat) Now, comment above was with respect to: > US still haven't established formal diplomatic relation with Taiwan, like all UNSC countries, your argument is simply invalid. Even though they haven't established formal relations, they still guarantee Taiwan, straight from the horses mouth in some cases -> see Reagan/Bush/Trump
    - Koiwai 6y ago
      "That" didn't happen after "that". When do you draw the line "US no longer needs China against Russia"?
      - adriancr 6y ago
        In your opinion, does US need China against Russia? In my opinion, not since 1989 when USSR crumbled. Also, it's irrelevant, George Bush is quoted directly that US will intervene to defend Taiwan, same policy was from Reagan well within cold war. So I stand corrected, it does not matter if US needs or not China, it will intervene.

> that's no longer the case. US still haven't established formal diplomatic relation with Taiwan, like all UNSC countries, your argument is simply invalid.

by Koiwai 6y ago

> that's no longer the case. US still haven't established formal diplomatic relation with Taiwan, like all UNSC countries, your argument is simply invalid.

adriancr 6y ago

> US still haven't established formal diplomatic relation with Taiwan, like all UNSC countries, your argument is simply invalid. Here's the result of an invasion by people that have looked into this more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs1ahNtj498 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs1ahNtj498 Here's info on US relationship with taiwan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan%E2%80%93United_States_relations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan%E2%80%93United_States_r... > On July 14, 1982 the Republican Reagan Administration gave specific assurances to Taiwan that the United States did not accept China's claim to sovereignty over the island (Six Assurances),[37][39] > Despite friendly relations with China, United States President George W. Bush was asked on 25 April 2001, "if Taiwan were attacked by China, do we (The U.S.) have an obligation to defend the Taiwanese?" He responded, "Yes, we do...and the Chinese must understand that. The United States would do whatever it took to help Taiwan defend herself."[43] He made it understood that "though we (China and the U.S.) have common interests, the Chinese must understand that there will be some areas where we disagree."[43] Also, you have to be aware that Mao wanted to invade Taiwan but US got in the way then too (ignoring the complete incompetence and inability to launch naval invasion)

Koiwai 6y ago
How is that relevant? you claimed things have changed since then, show me the money.
- adriancr 6y ago
  > How is that relevant? you claimed things have changed since then, show me the money. This is what I said: > US needed China against Russia, that's no longer the case. US no longer needs China against Russia... There's your money... What's hard to understand about that? (USSR is gone, communism is gone, Russia is no longer the superpower it was although it still is a major threat) Now, comment above was with respect to: > US still haven't established formal diplomatic relation with Taiwan, like all UNSC countries, your argument is simply invalid. Even though they haven't established formal relations, they still guarantee Taiwan, straight from the horses mouth in some cases -> see Reagan/Bush/Trump
  - Koiwai 6y ago
    "That" didn't happen after "that". When do you draw the line "US no longer needs China against Russia"?
    - adriancr 6y ago
      In your opinion, does US need China against Russia? In my opinion, not since 1989 when USSR crumbled. Also, it's irrelevant, George Bush is quoted directly that US will intervene to defend Taiwan, same policy was from Reagan well within cold war. So I stand corrected, it does not matter if US needs or not China, it will intervene.