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Just a pain that due to Apple's policies on keeping a big margin and lack of sharing technology means that the rest of the industry won't benefit from this. St

by wooger 6y ago

Just a pain that due to Apple's policies on keeping a big margin and lack of sharing technology means that the rest of the industry won't benefit from this. Still very hard to see not getting an M1 as my next laptop, especially if they continue to do sane things line remove the shitty touchbar.

walterbell 6y ago
Nuvia (former Apple M1 team members) was acquired by Qualcomm, so hopefully new laptop SoCs are on the way.
- kergonath 6y ago
  Yeah but Qualcomm... They’re perfectly happy sitting in their arses if there’s nobody to kick them around, and they’re just a nuisance generally. I hope I’m wrong, but they won’t have direct competition from Apple because it looks unlikely that M1 devices will run Windows. They seem to be more or less happy with being 2 generations behind Apple on phone SoCs. And they basically gave up on wearables. So instead of having Wintel/Mac we’ll have Wincomm/Mac or Wintel/Wincomm/Mac; not sure it’ll be much better.
  - EricE 6y ago
    Huh? I ran Windows on my M1 MBA quite easily: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsinsiderpreviewARM64 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsins... It was under Parallels but I’m sure over time someone will figure out how to direct boot into it if that’s really important. Performance of the M1 running Windows and games either in Crossover (commercial WINE implementation - well worth the $40 for ease of use/installation) or the Windows 10 beta actually turned out to be a bad thing. I subscribe to way too many assets in Cities:Skylines to use 16GB of RAM - I need at least 32GB so with great difficulty I returned the 16GB MBA and am eagerly awaiting the next round of AS Macs, hoping there will be at least one laptop that can take at lease 32GB of RAM. If so I will probably never update my Windows gaming machine again. Not that I could if I wanted to right now with the insane GPU shortages - but that’s another topic :p
    - arghwhat 6y ago
      > Huh? I ran Windows on my M1 MBA quite easily > It was under Parallels but... You didn't, you run Windows on virtualized hardware which isn't interesting. Might be useful for you, but not interesting.
    - kergonath 6y ago
      Yeah it can help in a pinch or for some specific workflows, but that's not a substitute. I am hoping that my 2015 15'' MBP does not die before the next 15'' or 16'' are released. 32 GB (bare minimum) or 64 GB (for future proofing) and a better CPU would be great. I don't have enough time to play even my backlog of Mac and Switch games. I wanted to build another PC for fun and to play, but I am not sure I will anymore.
kergonath 6y ago
This. I’m basically ordering a 15” MBP on day one at this point. I really like their devices as a user, but I wish they’d be more developer friendly.
JoshTko 6y ago
Giving stuff away doesn't generate profits needed to invest in R&D.

by wooger 6y ago

walterbell 6y ago

Nuvia (former Apple M1 team members) was acquired by Qualcomm, so hopefully new laptop SoCs are on the way.

kergonath 6y ago
Yeah but Qualcomm... They’re perfectly happy sitting in their arses if there’s nobody to kick them around, and they’re just a nuisance generally. I hope I’m wrong, but they won’t have direct competition from Apple because it looks unlikely that M1 devices will run Windows. They seem to be more or less happy with being 2 generations behind Apple on phone SoCs. And they basically gave up on wearables. So instead of having Wintel/Mac we’ll have Wincomm/Mac or Wintel/Wincomm/Mac; not sure it’ll be much better.
- EricE 6y ago
  Huh? I ran Windows on my M1 MBA quite easily: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsinsiderpreviewARM64 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windowsins... It was under Parallels but I’m sure over time someone will figure out how to direct boot into it if that’s really important. Performance of the M1 running Windows and games either in Crossover (commercial WINE implementation - well worth the $40 for ease of use/installation) or the Windows 10 beta actually turned out to be a bad thing. I subscribe to way too many assets in Cities:Skylines to use 16GB of RAM - I need at least 32GB so with great difficulty I returned the 16GB MBA and am eagerly awaiting the next round of AS Macs, hoping there will be at least one laptop that can take at lease 32GB of RAM. If so I will probably never update my Windows gaming machine again. Not that I could if I wanted to right now with the insane GPU shortages - but that’s another topic :p
  - arghwhat 6y ago
    > Huh? I ran Windows on my M1 MBA quite easily > It was under Parallels but... You didn't, you run Windows on virtualized hardware which isn't interesting. Might be useful for you, but not interesting.
  - kergonath 6y ago
    Yeah it can help in a pinch or for some specific workflows, but that's not a substitute. I am hoping that my 2015 15'' MBP does not die before the next 15'' or 16'' are released. 32 GB (bare minimum) or 64 GB (for future proofing) and a better CPU would be great. I don't have enough time to play even my backlog of Mac and Switch games. I wanted to build another PC for fun and to play, but I am not sure I will anymore.

kergonath 6y ago

This. I’m basically ordering a 15” MBP on day one at this point. I really like their devices as a user, but I wish they’d be more developer friendly.

JoshTko 6y ago

Giving stuff away doesn't generate profits needed to invest in R&D.