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Our society glorifies pornography and sex-work, but condemns the objectification of bodies. Our society condemns fat shaming, but makes idols out of instagram m

Our society glorifies pornography and sex-work, but condemns the objectification of bodies. Our society condemns fat shaming, but makes idols out of instagram models. We are very, very confused. Huxley predicted a world where sex became God. Orwell predicted a world where sex was taboo. Unsurprisingly, the reality is that our society has become a paradox by adopting both.

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kodah 6y ago
I think what you're witnessing is the two ideologies coming to a head. One which is a staunchly prude version of society going head to head with a staunchly open version of society in the most proxy way possible. The proxy being art, journalism, and finally public discourse.
- tgv 6y ago
  I think the left wing of the two sides has embraced prudishness, rationalizing it as being feminist (female nudity => objectification => sexual violence). The left has always had a large prudish faction, so it's not really a surprise.
  - kodah 6y ago
    Eh, there are feminists that embrace sexuality too, so I don't know about all that. Personally, I think it's one of those rare situations that's not divided politically. I think there are entire subcultures in America that just don't appreciate sexuality very much.
- blowski 6y ago
  You're right. These two might have bumpted into each other while shopping, but for the rest of the time, they barely knew of each other's existence. Now we have social media and 24/7 news channels, so they're constantly in each other's faces. They've always existed, but it's only recently they've both stood in the town square shouting at each other.
- Thorentis 6y ago
  I disagree. The same ideology simultaneously glorifies sex-work as it criticises the objectification of women's bodies by men. The same ideology normalises both actual pornography as well as the increasingly pornographic advertising we see everywhere, that also attacks the over-sexualisation of everything. Other may disagree, but what we are seeing is liberalism approaching the part of lifecycle where it becomes a paradox. And a society built on a paradox is in its death spiral.
Cthulhu_ 6y ago
I think you're making some sweeping generalizations about "our society" to be honest, because pornography, sex work and instagram models are condemned just as hard by a lot of people, throughout generations.
- Thorentis 6y ago
  This is true, though I would say that pop-culture, mass media, etc. are signs of the direction broader society is trending towards, even if the rest of society lags behind a generation.

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kodah 6y ago

I think what you're witnessing is the two ideologies coming to a head. One which is a staunchly prude version of society going head to head with a staunchly open version of society in the most proxy way possible. The proxy being art, journalism, and finally public discourse.

tgv 6y ago
I think the left wing of the two sides has embraced prudishness, rationalizing it as being feminist (female nudity => objectification => sexual violence). The left has always had a large prudish faction, so it's not really a surprise.
- kodah 6y ago
  Eh, there are feminists that embrace sexuality too, so I don't know about all that. Personally, I think it's one of those rare situations that's not divided politically. I think there are entire subcultures in America that just don't appreciate sexuality very much.
blowski 6y ago
You're right. These two might have bumpted into each other while shopping, but for the rest of the time, they barely knew of each other's existence. Now we have social media and 24/7 news channels, so they're constantly in each other's faces. They've always existed, but it's only recently they've both stood in the town square shouting at each other.
Thorentis 6y ago
I disagree. The same ideology simultaneously glorifies sex-work as it criticises the objectification of women's bodies by men. The same ideology normalises both actual pornography as well as the increasingly pornographic advertising we see everywhere, that also attacks the over-sexualisation of everything. Other may disagree, but what we are seeing is liberalism approaching the part of lifecycle where it becomes a paradox. And a society built on a paradox is in its death spiral.

Cthulhu_ 6y ago

I think you're making some sweeping generalizations about "our society" to be honest, because pornography, sex work and instagram models are condemned just as hard by a lot of people, throughout generations.

Thorentis 6y ago
This is true, though I would say that pop-culture, mass media, etc. are signs of the direction broader society is trending towards, even if the rest of society lags behind a generation.