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At least in my field (applied machine learning/optics) and my partner's field (cognitive neuroscience) pre-prints are a massive deal. Not only do they allow you

At least in my field (applied machine learning/optics) and my partner's field (cognitive neuroscience) pre-prints are a massive deal. Not only do they allow you to get your work out earlier, google scholar will typically link your pre-print to the published article eventually so anyone who doesn't have a subscription can get a PDF no problem. This probably nullifies the negative effects of not having access to the publisher's library. It's to the point now I'd say that all of the grad students and younger PIs insist on posting a pre-print. Pretty great trend especially considering with LaTeX the preprint ends up looking just as good as the published version anyways....

partingshots 6y ago
Arxiv was a godsend.
- SkyMarshal 6y ago
  Also https://eprint.iacr.org/ https://eprint.iacr.org/, https://www.biorxiv.org/ https://www.biorxiv.org/, and https://www.ssrn.com/ https://www.ssrn.com/. Probably others too.
  - gkya 6y ago
    I made a list for linguistics here: https://gkayaalp.com/blog/20200319_lingpreprints.html https://gkayaalp.com/blog/20200319_lingpreprints.html Some of them are general social sciences tho.
corty 6y ago
Preprint often looks better. I've had publishers send papers to offshoristan where they redid everything including the graphs to match their layout, introducing tons of errors, typos (yes, really...) and problems that even almost 10 rounds of urgent back-and-forth before the deadline didn't fix entirely.
betterunix2 6y ago
Same in cryptography, where the research community manages our own preprint archive (http://eprint.iacr.org/ http://eprint.iacr.org/). My experience has been that preprint archives are often used to "mark territory" i.e. get credit for an idea quickly so that it can be discussed more openly.
einpoklum 6y ago
> Not only do they allow you to get your work out earlier Why can't you just upload to arxiv and perhaps places like researchgate or academia.edu ?
- nicoburns 6y ago
  Uploading to arxiv is a pre-print. That's exactly what the parent is saying that they do. Some journals will forbid this as part of the publishing contract.
  - einpoklum 6y ago
    That can be circumvented using the standard trick: https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/119002/7319 https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/119002/7319

partingshots 6y ago

Arxiv was a godsend.

SkyMarshal 6y ago
Also https://eprint.iacr.org/ https://eprint.iacr.org/, https://www.biorxiv.org/ https://www.biorxiv.org/, and https://www.ssrn.com/ https://www.ssrn.com/. Probably others too.
- gkya 6y ago
  I made a list for linguistics here: https://gkayaalp.com/blog/20200319_lingpreprints.html https://gkayaalp.com/blog/20200319_lingpreprints.html Some of them are general social sciences tho.

corty 6y ago

Preprint often looks better. I've had publishers send papers to offshoristan where they redid everything including the graphs to match their layout, introducing tons of errors, typos (yes, really...) and problems that even almost 10 rounds of urgent back-and-forth before the deadline didn't fix entirely.

betterunix2 6y ago

Same in cryptography, where the research community manages our own preprint archive (http://eprint.iacr.org/ http://eprint.iacr.org/). My experience has been that preprint archives are often used to "mark territory" i.e. get credit for an idea quickly so that it can be discussed more openly.

einpoklum 6y ago

> Not only do they allow you to get your work out earlier Why can't you just upload to arxiv and perhaps places like researchgate or academia.edu ?

nicoburns 6y ago
Uploading to arxiv is a pre-print. That's exactly what the parent is saying that they do. Some journals will forbid this as part of the publishing contract.
- einpoklum 6y ago
  That can be circumvented using the standard trick: https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/119002/7319 https://academia.stackexchange.com/a/119002/7319