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> Isn't this what the English language is for? Doesn't every single person on the face of the earth recognize all of these concepts and deploy all of these conc

> Isn't this what the English language is for? Doesn't every single person on the face of the earth recognize all of these concepts and deploy all of these concepts using the English language on fields more numerous than computer science alone? You are welcome to explain the Abstract Factory every time you talk about it. I prefer to just refer to the well known name of the pattern.

neonological 6y ago
You completely missed the point kitkat. Abstract Factory is valid English vocabulary. The point is it's just a programming technique / trick. My main issue is that the word "Design pattern" inflates what these things actually are. The jargon is nuts. Design patterns isn't an academic field of study it's just miscellaneous programming tricks and common practices. Don't raise it to a higher level than what these things actually are. Not to mention pretentious names like "strategy pattern" or "iterator pattern" don't really help.
- AmpsterMan 6y ago
  I'm having a hard time understanding you here. Or rather, the destinction you are trying to make. Do you prefer more verb oriented-ness? I.e. "just iterate through the list" rather than "Implement the Iterator design pattern"
  - neonological 6y ago
    Iterator is just one aspect of the problem don't get focused on that. The overall issue is that these are all just programming tricks and techniques and the movement to call these things "design patterns" is inflating the academic worth of these tricks. Additionally these tricks aren't really taught in academia because that's just what they all are, informal tricks. It's like calling the pseudo scientific doctors that work on your spine "chiropractors." The word "chiropractor" inflates the legitimacy of what they actually do when in reality it's part of non-scientific and non-formal medicine.

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> Isn't this what the English language is for? Doesn't every single person on the face of the earth recognize all of these concepts and deploy all of these conc

by kitkat_new 6y ago

neonological 6y ago
You completely missed the point kitkat. Abstract Factory is valid English vocabulary. The point is it's just a programming technique / trick. My main issue is that the word "Design pattern" inflates what these things actually are. The jargon is nuts. Design patterns isn't an academic field of study it's just miscellaneous programming tricks and common practices. Don't raise it to a higher level than what these things actually are. Not to mention pretentious names like "strategy pattern" or "iterator pattern" don't really help.
- AmpsterMan 6y ago
  I'm having a hard time understanding you here. Or rather, the destinction you are trying to make. Do you prefer more verb oriented-ness? I.e. "just iterate through the list" rather than "Implement the Iterator design pattern"
  - neonological 6y ago
    Iterator is just one aspect of the problem don't get focused on that. The overall issue is that these are all just programming tricks and techniques and the movement to call these things "design patterns" is inflating the academic worth of these tricks. Additionally these tricks aren't really taught in academia because that's just what they all are, informal tricks. It's like calling the pseudo scientific doctors that work on your spine "chiropractors." The word "chiropractor" inflates the legitimacy of what they actually do when in reality it's part of non-scientific and non-formal medicine.