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I loved this footnote: "NB: if puzzled by a pawn move, please check for en passant before reporting a bug"

by bschne 6y ago

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mattround 6y ago
I added it out of desperation after around 100 people on reddit claimed the black pawns are "cheating".
- dwohnitmok 6y ago
  Did it help? Or do people still complain about it?
  - ehsankia 6y ago
    In my experience having small webapps, it hardly helps. I literally added a huge modal popup on my feedback button specifically saying "DO NOT MESSAGE ME ABOUT X" before continuing and I still get dozens a week. Even on reddit, when you get a high ranked comment, you will often get the same reply over and over again, even though a similar response is already the highest ranked reply to yours. There are people who just want to blurt out their opinion regardless of whether it's original or not..
    - netflixandkill 6y ago
      Reddit sadly went the way of mostly write-only microblogging a long time ago now. I'm not sure what the solution is between invite only subs or heavy and time consuming moderation, and random comments that are just people thinking out loud, as using any sort of karma metrics would be useless when you can get 20-30k off a no effort post in a popular sub, but I also doubt that reddit the company spends much time worrying about it. I can't remember who I stole "the internet is write only" but it's felt very true as audience size exploded. Perhaps the worst part is that it's self reinforcing in either direction, and few people ever leave the agora unless they delve into niche subjects, so they bring the agora mentality with them.
      - ehsankia 6y ago
        > it's felt very true as audience size exploded I think this is the key point. As with most issues on the internet, it's mostly an issue of scale. I assume these problematic users are actually only a very small fraction overall, but as the overall size grows, so does the number of people who belong at the very edge of the bell curve in terms of "normal" behavior. With scale, any rare issue becomes common enough to be annoying.
- forty 6y ago
  Speaking of rules : I noticed the AI was able to castle even though one of the square in the path was attacked by one of my piece. I'm not a chess expert at all (this AI seems much better than me ^^) but I thought it shouldn't be possible.
  - mattround 6y ago
    I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't cover that, I can imagine it'd be tricky to include without adding tens of bytes (10-20 bytes could be freed up by using slightly hackier function calls to/from the display, so perhaps Óscar will add more features/intelligence one day)
  - arnsholt 6y ago
    Was it a long castle? In that case, the squares the rook moves through don't block the move, it's only the squares the king moves through that block the castling move, so f8 and g8 for short castle and d8 and c8 for long castle.
    - forty 6y ago
      Ah! It might have been that situation indeed, but I don't remember which square was attacked exactly. Good to know :)
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27182818284 6y ago
I noticed chess.com started adding a little pop-up notification about en passant when you use it. I imagine with the huge chess surge going on right now they were getting quite a lot of complaints. Stalemates also prompt the little pop-up notification.
- ZephyrBlu 6y ago
  The first time I got "draw due to repeated move" on Chess.com I was very confused and frustrated.
mahathu 6y ago
holy hell.
syncsynchalt 6y ago
For anyone confused, see https://www.reddit.com/r/AnarchyChess/comments/l2d0b7/google_en_passant/gla5p13/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/AnarchyChess/comments/l2d0b7/google... for context.
SilasX 6y ago
lol I remember when I was little in the 80s, pre-internet, and I played Chessmaster 2000, and I was like, wtf, what just happened? when I first encountered the en passant rule.
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I loved this footnote: "NB: if puzzled by a pawn move, please check for en passant before reporting a bug"

by bschne 6y ago

I loved this footnote: "NB: if puzzled by a pawn move, please check for en passant before reporting a bug"

deleted 6y ago

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mattround 6y ago

I added it out of desperation after around 100 people on reddit claimed the black pawns are "cheating".

dwohnitmok 6y ago
Did it help? Or do people still complain about it?
- ehsankia 6y ago
  In my experience having small webapps, it hardly helps. I literally added a huge modal popup on my feedback button specifically saying "DO NOT MESSAGE ME ABOUT X" before continuing and I still get dozens a week. Even on reddit, when you get a high ranked comment, you will often get the same reply over and over again, even though a similar response is already the highest ranked reply to yours. There are people who just want to blurt out their opinion regardless of whether it's original or not..
  - netflixandkill 6y ago
    Reddit sadly went the way of mostly write-only microblogging a long time ago now. I'm not sure what the solution is between invite only subs or heavy and time consuming moderation, and random comments that are just people thinking out loud, as using any sort of karma metrics would be useless when you can get 20-30k off a no effort post in a popular sub, but I also doubt that reddit the company spends much time worrying about it. I can't remember who I stole "the internet is write only" but it's felt very true as audience size exploded. Perhaps the worst part is that it's self reinforcing in either direction, and few people ever leave the agora unless they delve into niche subjects, so they bring the agora mentality with them.
    - ehsankia 6y ago
      > it's felt very true as audience size exploded I think this is the key point. As with most issues on the internet, it's mostly an issue of scale. I assume these problematic users are actually only a very small fraction overall, but as the overall size grows, so does the number of people who belong at the very edge of the bell curve in terms of "normal" behavior. With scale, any rare issue becomes common enough to be annoying.
forty 6y ago
Speaking of rules : I noticed the AI was able to castle even though one of the square in the path was attacked by one of my piece. I'm not a chess expert at all (this AI seems much better than me ^^) but I thought it shouldn't be possible.
- mattround 6y ago
  I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't cover that, I can imagine it'd be tricky to include without adding tens of bytes (10-20 bytes could be freed up by using slightly hackier function calls to/from the display, so perhaps Óscar will add more features/intelligence one day)
- arnsholt 6y ago
  Was it a long castle? In that case, the squares the rook moves through don't block the move, it's only the squares the king moves through that block the castling move, so f8 and g8 for short castle and d8 and c8 for long castle.
  - forty 6y ago
    Ah! It might have been that situation indeed, but I don't remember which square was attacked exactly. Good to know :)

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27182818284 6y ago

I noticed chess.com started adding a little pop-up notification about en passant when you use it. I imagine with the huge chess surge going on right now they were getting quite a lot of complaints. Stalemates also prompt the little pop-up notification.

ZephyrBlu 6y ago
The first time I got "draw due to repeated move" on Chess.com I was very confused and frustrated.

mahathu 6y ago

holy hell.

syncsynchalt 6y ago

For anyone confused, see https://www.reddit.com/r/AnarchyChess/comments/l2d0b7/google_en_passant/gla5p13/?context=3 https://www.reddit.com/r/AnarchyChess/comments/l2d0b7/google... for context.

SilasX 6y ago

lol I remember when I was little in the 80s, pre-internet, and I played Chessmaster 2000, and I was like, wtf, what just happened? when I first encountered the en passant rule.

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