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The ideal platform for something like youtube would be to separate discovery from content. You host the content, and you can pick from UIs/algorithms for the d

by swlkr 6y ago

The ideal platform for something like youtube would be to separate discovery from content. You host the content, and you can pick from UIs/algorithms for the discovery.

JProthero 6y ago
This is my view too. I'm hopeful that eventually some combination of technologies that already exist (peer-to-peer sharing, tor, blockchain, homomorphic encryption, maybe even wireless mesh networking) will evolve into a decentralised hosting and delivery system that everyone will use. I'm woefully uninformed to speculate about how feasible this might be though, so it remains just a hope for me.
- TobTobXX 6y ago
  Peertube is an alternative. You usually host your own instance (or if someone is generous, they can five you some space) and it is fully decentralized. It uses ActivityPub and works with p2p. Recently they introsuced livestreaming and cross-instance search. https://joinpeertube.org/ https://joinpeertube.org/
  - JProthero 6y ago
    Thanks for mentioning PeerTube — I've been keeping an eye on it for a while now. It has some of the features I noted, including one I didn't but should have; it's open source. I think PeerTube or systems like it have a lot promise — particularly if more estblished channels on YouTube, and other media producers, were to start to promote them as alternative methods for accessing their output.
Daho0n 6y ago
So Google video search plus your own website?
- foobar33333 6y ago
  Same idea but with a full UI so it works like youtube where you can scroll through suggested content and subscribe to things
Sophistifunk 6y ago
The problem is that whoever runs the discovery has all the power and gets most of the money. The rest is just bait.
philistine 6y ago
If you’re serious about content, you have to serious about distribution. It’s the same as the old Apple saying: if you’re serious about software, you have to make hardware.
- athms 6y ago
  >It’s the same as the old Apple saying: if you’re serious about software, you have to make hardware. The actual quote, "people who are really serious about software should make their own hardware," is from Alan Kay, when he was speaking at a seminar in 1982 called Creative Think. Andy Hertzfeld was in attendance and took notes. When Hertzfeld got back to his office at Apple, he summarized the notes on one page and handed out to his team members. Kay was later hired as an Apple Fellow in 1984.

by swlkr 6y ago

The ideal platform for something like youtube would be to separate discovery from content. You host the content, and you can pick from UIs/algorithms for the discovery.

JProthero 6y ago

This is my view too. I'm hopeful that eventually some combination of technologies that already exist (peer-to-peer sharing, tor, blockchain, homomorphic encryption, maybe even wireless mesh networking) will evolve into a decentralised hosting and delivery system that everyone will use. I'm woefully uninformed to speculate about how feasible this might be though, so it remains just a hope for me.

TobTobXX 6y ago
Peertube is an alternative. You usually host your own instance (or if someone is generous, they can five you some space) and it is fully decentralized. It uses ActivityPub and works with p2p. Recently they introsuced livestreaming and cross-instance search. https://joinpeertube.org/ https://joinpeertube.org/
- JProthero 6y ago
  Thanks for mentioning PeerTube — I've been keeping an eye on it for a while now. It has some of the features I noted, including one I didn't but should have; it's open source. I think PeerTube or systems like it have a lot promise — particularly if more estblished channels on YouTube, and other media producers, were to start to promote them as alternative methods for accessing their output.

Daho0n 6y ago

So Google video search plus your own website?

foobar33333 6y ago
Same idea but with a full UI so it works like youtube where you can scroll through suggested content and subscribe to things

Sophistifunk 6y ago

The problem is that whoever runs the discovery has all the power and gets most of the money. The rest is just bait.

philistine 6y ago

If you’re serious about content, you have to serious about distribution. It’s the same as the old Apple saying: if you’re serious about software, you have to make hardware.

athms 6y ago
>It’s the same as the old Apple saying: if you’re serious about software, you have to make hardware. The actual quote, "people who are really serious about software should make their own hardware," is from Alan Kay, when he was speaking at a seminar in 1982 called Creative Think. Andy Hertzfeld was in attendance and took notes. When Hertzfeld got back to his office at Apple, he summarized the notes on one page and handed out to his team members. Kay was later hired as an Apple Fellow in 1984.