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That's a weird take. Journalistic research, for example, also often involves bringing to light facts that some in-group already knows. The word research is a lo
by glangdale 6y ago
That's a weird take. Journalistic research, for example, also often involves bringing to light facts that some in-group already knows. The word research is a lot broader than what you claim; people talk about "researching" which television set to buy, and everyone understands what they mean.
So your contribution here is "this guy is figuring out stuff that people at Apple already pretty much know". Err, thanks, Captain Obvious.
- guerrilla 6y agoSecurity research could be considered another similar example.
- Gaelan 6y agoI mean, I read the parent comment more as "it's a shame that we, as a society, waste so much time figuring out stuff we already know but are unwilling to share".
- boardwaalk 6y agoI think it does say that, but it also says: > I have real trouble using the term "research" for something like this, lumping it together with activities such as "research" in natural science, "research" in anthropology, or even journalistic "research". Considering we're on "Hacker News" right now, and saying something like "hacking (in the reverse engineering sense) is research-like but not fundamental enough to be research" is bound to be a bit controversial. It's a slippery slope anyways. Is researching anything that might have been known by someone at some point in time now not research? And it feels a bit like gatekeeping too.
- Gaelan 6y agoYeah, I'm not at all sure the distinction over terminology is terribly useful, but I do think GP's underlying point is interesting.
- glangdale 6y agoIt's possible that he could have expressed these same thoughts without sounding like such a jerk, though.