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You should always try to have your personal website, as it's almost the only internet asset that you can actually own.

by GermanDude 6y ago

slezyr 6y ago
You don't own its domain, however. It can be revoked at any time.
- michaelbuckbee 6y ago
  Yes. But if you consider it in terms of "potential to be messed with" - the surface area is much less.
- quonn 6y ago
  Not if you have a trademark.
  - zchrykng 6y ago
    Tell that to the people who have be completely de-platformed over the last few years. Everyone agrees that most, if not all, of them are horrible people, but it is totally possible to lose your domain name if no one will provide registrations and such services to you.
    - viraptor 6y ago
      I can't remember any of them losing domain registration. They lost hosting providers and DNS hosting. Did I miss someone?
- judge2020 6y ago
  Technically you do own the domain, although the registry and most registrars retain the right to revoke it based on their abuse policies; There are enterprise-grade registrars that have contracts without these provisions (like CSC Global[0], which Disney uses[1]) if you'd like to remove this risk. 0: http://corporatedomains.com http://corporatedomains.com 1: https://who.is/whois/disney.com https://who.is/whois/disney.com
- tux1968 6y ago
  It's impossible to be completely impervious to all threats, but for your domain name there are some options that may help. For instance there are domains sold outside the reach of specific jurisdictions[1] and there are blockchain dns efforts as well[2]. [1] https://bulletproofhosting.org/bulletproof-domains/ https://bulletproofhosting.org/bulletproof-domains/ [2] https://blockchain-dns.info/ https://blockchain-dns.info/
- pizza 6y ago
  Technically your IP address could too
nicbou 6y ago
Even then, you're at Google's mercy, since they control search traffic. I run my own website, but 85% of my traffic comes from Google. It's pretty much like getting 85% of your income from a single client.
- jimbob45 6y ago
  More Cloudflare’s right? Because they can drop your DDOS protection or just block you from their DNS lookups, right? Like they did to 4chan/8chan.
  - Jenk 6y ago
    If you own a site that has systemic issues with child pornography sharing and other illegal material, you probably deserve it.
    - throwaway45349 6y ago
      4chan is a shady place, but it is definitely not a bastion of child porn. The owners do not allow anything like that.
      - Jenk 6y ago
        /b/ has been an epicentre for decades.
        cbozeman 6y ago
        That is total horseshit. Yes, there are points in time when posters have attempted to post child pornography there, but it gets taken down swiftly and gets reported to moderators as swiftly as its posted. Your "epicentre" of child pornography on the Internet is Facebook, not 4chan.[1] [1]: https://samharris.org/subscriber-extras/213-worst-epidemic/ https://samharris.org/subscriber-extras/213-worst-epidemic/
        6y ago
Barrin92 6y ago
This isn't just about a personal website though. This is Linus Tech Tips (with a staff of about 20 people) building his own platform for delivering content as the article points out. That's a considerable development effort and probably out of reach for youtube creators who are large enough to make a living and depend on youtube, but not large enough to justify that kind of investment.
- piplikoc 6y ago
  Linus Media Group has 32 employees [1] with 7 massive YouTube channels. As the article pointed out they also have other tech YouTubers releasing content of Floatplane, not just their own channels. [1] https://linusmediagroup.com/our-team https://linusmediagroup.com/our-team
- fakedang 6y ago
  Exactly. I doubt even the big ones like Pewdiepie can even retain a following with their own website, much less a s small independent creator.
- a_hard_time 6y ago
  > That's a considerable development effort and probably out of reach for youtube creators who are large enough to make a living and depend on youtube, but not large enough to justify that kind of investment. YouTube revolves around free content - this places creators on the platform at an immediate and significant disadvantage in terms of monetising their audience. Many YouTubers who are stuck in that rut of being dependent on YouTube, despite having a fairly large audience, would likely make a lot more money if they started producing content on platforms which offer better options for monetisation (ideally, their own). A great example of this is Twitch. Direct monetisation of the audience is a fundamental part of the culture on Twitch. The site is optimised for it. Even before the Amazon Prime subscriptions, Twitch was FAR more profitable than YouTube for creators with audiences of comparable size.
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dghughes 6y ago
Your comment for some reason reminds me of the early days of the Internet. Personal websites were a given there was a major urge to have your own website. Whether you had your own domain name or a Geocities type of page you just had to have one. On dialup people tended to be more independent you jumped on the Internet then jumped off to preserve your precious 60 hours/month (and to allow your landline phone to get calls). That time offline was used learning about things and you couldn't Google every little thing. I was much more into the fundamentals of the computer itself more than the stuff you could see on it. Making boot disks, adjusting settings in Windows, discovering Linux, learning HTML, sending lots of email, some IRC. The Internet grew in complexity and usefulness, and always on cable got cheaper but early on the computer itself was my main focus. Now it seems as if a computer is simply a conduit to watch YouTube videos. It seems like people are realizing they need to be more independent.
- antoniuschan99 6y ago
  The first video I tried to download was the first South Park Short on dialup. It took around 6 or 8 hours. This was in 1997/98. The next year I got cable and it was super fast like a couple of minutes. Now it takes a few seconds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T_RZOoVlzc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T_RZOoVlzc

You should always try to have your personal website, as it's almost the only internet asset that you can actually own.

slezyr 6y ago

You don't own its domain, however. It can be revoked at any time.

michaelbuckbee 6y ago
Yes. But if you consider it in terms of "potential to be messed with" - the surface area is much less.
quonn 6y ago
Not if you have a trademark.
- zchrykng 6y ago
  Tell that to the people who have be completely de-platformed over the last few years. Everyone agrees that most, if not all, of them are horrible people, but it is totally possible to lose your domain name if no one will provide registrations and such services to you.
  - viraptor 6y ago
    I can't remember any of them losing domain registration. They lost hosting providers and DNS hosting. Did I miss someone?
judge2020 6y ago
Technically you do own the domain, although the registry and most registrars retain the right to revoke it based on their abuse policies; There are enterprise-grade registrars that have contracts without these provisions (like CSC Global[0], which Disney uses[1]) if you'd like to remove this risk. 0: http://corporatedomains.com http://corporatedomains.com 1: https://who.is/whois/disney.com https://who.is/whois/disney.com
tux1968 6y ago
It's impossible to be completely impervious to all threats, but for your domain name there are some options that may help. For instance there are domains sold outside the reach of specific jurisdictions[1] and there are blockchain dns efforts as well[2]. [1] https://bulletproofhosting.org/bulletproof-domains/ https://bulletproofhosting.org/bulletproof-domains/ [2] https://blockchain-dns.info/ https://blockchain-dns.info/
pizza 6y ago
Technically your IP address could too

nicbou 6y ago

Even then, you're at Google's mercy, since they control search traffic. I run my own website, but 85% of my traffic comes from Google. It's pretty much like getting 85% of your income from a single client.

jimbob45 6y ago
More Cloudflare’s right? Because they can drop your DDOS protection or just block you from their DNS lookups, right? Like they did to 4chan/8chan.
- Jenk 6y ago
  If you own a site that has systemic issues with child pornography sharing and other illegal material, you probably deserve it.
  - throwaway45349 6y ago
    4chan is a shady place, but it is definitely not a bastion of child porn. The owners do not allow anything like that.
    - Jenk 6y ago
      /b/ has been an epicentre for decades.
      - cbozeman 6y ago
        That is total horseshit. Yes, there are points in time when posters have attempted to post child pornography there, but it gets taken down swiftly and gets reported to moderators as swiftly as its posted. Your "epicentre" of child pornography on the Internet is Facebook, not 4chan.[1] [1]: https://samharris.org/subscriber-extras/213-worst-epidemic/ https://samharris.org/subscriber-extras/213-worst-epidemic/
        6y ago

Barrin92 6y ago

This isn't just about a personal website though. This is Linus Tech Tips (with a staff of about 20 people) building his own platform for delivering content as the article points out. That's a considerable development effort and probably out of reach for youtube creators who are large enough to make a living and depend on youtube, but not large enough to justify that kind of investment.

piplikoc 6y ago
Linus Media Group has 32 employees [1] with 7 massive YouTube channels. As the article pointed out they also have other tech YouTubers releasing content of Floatplane, not just their own channels. [1] https://linusmediagroup.com/our-team https://linusmediagroup.com/our-team
fakedang 6y ago
Exactly. I doubt even the big ones like Pewdiepie can even retain a following with their own website, much less a s small independent creator.
a_hard_time 6y ago
> That's a considerable development effort and probably out of reach for youtube creators who are large enough to make a living and depend on youtube, but not large enough to justify that kind of investment. YouTube revolves around free content - this places creators on the platform at an immediate and significant disadvantage in terms of monetising their audience. Many YouTubers who are stuck in that rut of being dependent on YouTube, despite having a fairly large audience, would likely make a lot more money if they started producing content on platforms which offer better options for monetisation (ideally, their own). A great example of this is Twitch. Direct monetisation of the audience is a fundamental part of the culture on Twitch. The site is optimised for it. Even before the Amazon Prime subscriptions, Twitch was FAR more profitable than YouTube for creators with audiences of comparable size.

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dghughes 6y ago

Your comment for some reason reminds me of the early days of the Internet. Personal websites were a given there was a major urge to have your own website. Whether you had your own domain name or a Geocities type of page you just had to have one. On dialup people tended to be more independent you jumped on the Internet then jumped off to preserve your precious 60 hours/month (and to allow your landline phone to get calls). That time offline was used learning about things and you couldn't Google every little thing. I was much more into the fundamentals of the computer itself more than the stuff you could see on it. Making boot disks, adjusting settings in Windows, discovering Linux, learning HTML, sending lots of email, some IRC. The Internet grew in complexity and usefulness, and always on cable got cheaper but early on the computer itself was my main focus. Now it seems as if a computer is simply a conduit to watch YouTube videos. It seems like people are realizing they need to be more independent.

antoniuschan99 6y ago
The first video I tried to download was the first South Park Short on dialup. It took around 6 or 8 hours. This was in 1997/98. The next year I got cable and it was super fast like a couple of minutes. Now it takes a few seconds! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T_RZOoVlzc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T_RZOoVlzc