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Because more often than not it misses the mark - heavily at that. The article mentions skin tone, but doesn't go too deep into why that might influence things
by Tade0 6y ago
Because more often than not it misses the mark - heavily at that.
The article mentions skin tone, but doesn't go too deep into why that might influence things - just assumes that this is the case.
Meanwhile, as an eastern European, I see typical examples of how social class influences one's options.
To clarify my point: we're predominantly white over here and yet experience the same kind of problems, which leads me to think that it's probably not skin tone, over which Americans left and right seem to be so fixated, but other things.
Yes, there's racism - that's abundantly clear. But there's also poverty, inequality and an associated lack of access to education. Maybe we would have made more progress as a species if we stopped focusing on easily identifiable features?
- jjj123 6y agoWell in the US race is inextricably tied to class. We have a long history of limiting the economic opportunities of Black people that’s led to a pretty extreme black/white wealth gap. So in the US at least, class issues are race issues.
- Tade0 6y agoEurope also has a long history of limiting economic opportunities of black people - arguably much longer than the US, and yet the situation isn't that dire over here. Do you truly believe it's just skin tone?
- jjj123 6y agoWhat do you mean by “it’s just skin tone”? I’m going to take it you’re asking if I think all inequalities between white and black people in the US are based on interpersonal racism regardless of class? Obviously that’s not true. However, there are many examples in the US’s recent history and present that _are_ explicitly racist. For example, the criminal justice system in the US is definitely classist, but it’s also racist. That’s the case with most of our institutions: both classist and racist to varying degrees. As to why the situation isn’t as dire in Europe than the US? My first question is: is it really less dire there? But assuming it is, I’m guessing it’s one of two things: - Less recent oppression: the US has had explicitly racist policies in housing, policing, schooling, etc. in its very recent past. Some of those practices are still around, just a little less explicit. - welfare programs seem better in general in Europe: when you have no public healthcare, an all but abandoned public schooling system, and an unlivable minimum wage a wealth gap between two races isn’t going to fix itself, it’ll only grow wider.
- tubularhells 6y ago>My first question is: is it really less dire there? Yes, the situation is comparably better in Europe. We don't really know what you Yankees are doing on the other side of the pond, but we don't want any of it here for sure. Your nation is a bad example to all of us.
- Viliam1234 6y agoSame here, white male from Eastern Europe, if someone has a recipe how to make other people give me lots of money in return for a hope that in a few years I will produce a great computer game... please tell me. Because I would love writing my own game, instead of developing boring applications. Reading all these texts about whiteness and maleness, I suspect an important step in the process is sending someone a picture of a white penis. Okay, I have a picture, but no idea where to send it. Should I just spam everyone and hope for the best? If we are talking about privileges, how about mentioning the most relevant one: rich privilege? Oh I forgot, this one probably does not exist. Too bad, because a rich person could easily fund the game prototype, and maybe even pay for favorable reviews.