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that's not my point. For some reason having 3 dials that can control the whole climate system in the car, and which can be precisely configured in moments isn't

that's not my point. For some reason having 3 dials that can control the whole climate system in the car, and which can be precisely configured in moments isn't enough. Instead we throw the dials away, and we must use an array of buttons, menus, clicker wheels and temperature readouts instead. why car manufacturers decided to go that way, i'm not sure.

bonoboTP 6y ago
Probably something to do with promotions and career incentives. You need to design something novel and complex to demonstrate your value to the company and move ahead. Simply leaving things as they were doesn't demonstrate that you're actively creating new stuff as a project manager/engineer/designer. Also these designs tend to look good and futuristic and innovative on PowerPoint slides and tend to impress higher ups. Similar to how introducing new tech and new dependencies, complicated architectures etc. in a software project seems to be rewarded as long as you jump ship quickly enough before the mess you created blows up.
agumonkey 6y ago
It's following smartphone culture. They're not made to phone and it takes efforts and time to call someone. Market dynamics for you. The thing is I'm sure if you try to sell buttons to customer your sales will be lower.
cmrdporcupine 6y ago
It looks modern and "luxury" now. It won't in 10 years. Also saves on component costs, and pushes manufacturing and design issues into software. It's terrible, and I'm hoping there is a reaction against it. This is the #1 thing that stops me from having any interest in buying a Tesla.
- marshmallow_12 6y ago
  you are right of course. Do you remember around 10 years ago when there was a big push into integrating phones to the touchless infotainment. You are left with dreadful looking things like the Fords with millions and millions of tiny buttons corresponding to nearly every letter of the alphabet. They look hideous, of course. I would pay money just to avoid those awful things. Actually i'm starting to understand the tesla logic a bit...
bradleyjg 6y ago
I agree in my middle age curmudgeon way. But on a nest thermostat this is annoying rather than dangerous. Whereas until we get autonomous vehicles the car version is both.

bonoboTP 6y ago

Probably something to do with promotions and career incentives. You need to design something novel and complex to demonstrate your value to the company and move ahead. Simply leaving things as they were doesn't demonstrate that you're actively creating new stuff as a project manager/engineer/designer. Also these designs tend to look good and futuristic and innovative on PowerPoint slides and tend to impress higher ups. Similar to how introducing new tech and new dependencies, complicated architectures etc. in a software project seems to be rewarded as long as you jump ship quickly enough before the mess you created blows up.

agumonkey 6y ago

It's following smartphone culture. They're not made to phone and it takes efforts and time to call someone. Market dynamics for you. The thing is I'm sure if you try to sell buttons to customer your sales will be lower.

cmrdporcupine 6y ago

It looks modern and "luxury" now. It won't in 10 years. Also saves on component costs, and pushes manufacturing and design issues into software. It's terrible, and I'm hoping there is a reaction against it. This is the #1 thing that stops me from having any interest in buying a Tesla.

marshmallow_12 6y ago
you are right of course. Do you remember around 10 years ago when there was a big push into integrating phones to the touchless infotainment. You are left with dreadful looking things like the Fords with millions and millions of tiny buttons corresponding to nearly every letter of the alphabet. They look hideous, of course. I would pay money just to avoid those awful things. Actually i'm starting to understand the tesla logic a bit...

bradleyjg 6y ago

I agree in my middle age curmudgeon way. But on a nest thermostat this is annoying rather than dangerous. Whereas until we get autonomous vehicles the car version is both.