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> I personally find "hate speech" nomenclature quite tedious I first encountered 'hate speech' as a wide eyed teenager in the 1990s on a gaming IRC room that I

by nanna 6y ago

> I personally find "hate speech" nomenclature quite tedious I first encountered 'hate speech' as a wide eyed teenager in the 1990s on a gaming IRC room that I hung out in. Somehow my ethnic background came out, and it was bizarre: the entire room either turned against me with racist hate speech, adding that they knew where I lived based on my ip (didn't think this was possible, but then didn't know anyone to ask if it was) and would come beat me up or worse. Or they just went silent and wouldn't stand up for me. I asked the moderators to help and I don't think they ever replied; certainly they never did anything. It was terrifying, and it made me clock out of IRC and online gaming communities for good. So I wonder, to those who downvote someone asking about moderating (posts on your own blog!) or just consider hate speech as a term to be 'tedius' : have you ever experienced it yourself?

dane-pgp 6y ago
I can't speak on behalf of ta8645, but it's possible that they support banning people who harass or threaten violence, but don't think that banning an ever growing list of ideologically chosen words will do much to solve the underlying problems (and may in fact exacerbate them).
southerntofu 6y ago
> So I wonder, to those who downvote someone asking about moderating I didn't downvote and i'm certainly in favor of strong moderation. However automated filters worry me as they have shown time and time again that regexes aren't as sharp as human moderators. For recent discussions about that on Lemmy, a federated Reddit replacement based on ActivityPub: https://lemmy.ml/post/55323 https://lemmy.ml/post/55323 https://lemmy.ml/post/55143 https://lemmy.ml/post/55143
outime 6y ago
I didn’t downvote and I’m very sorry you had/have to go through that. That being said, how I see it is that OP may be referring to the fact that the “hate speech” label is being overused similarly to “fascism” and other similar strong words.
VeninVidiaVicii 6y ago
I had a similar situation happen to me on this very site. I was expressing my concerns about the master/slave terminology and got totally ganged up on, so much so that I abandoned my account that incident occurred on.
- nanna 6y ago
  I'm really sorry to hear that happened to you here. All these 'free speech' threads seem to attract the most toxic HN users.

by nanna 6y ago

dane-pgp 6y ago

I can't speak on behalf of ta8645, but it's possible that they support banning people who harass or threaten violence, but don't think that banning an ever growing list of ideologically chosen words will do much to solve the underlying problems (and may in fact exacerbate them).

southerntofu 6y ago

> So I wonder, to those who downvote someone asking about moderating I didn't downvote and i'm certainly in favor of strong moderation. However automated filters worry me as they have shown time and time again that regexes aren't as sharp as human moderators. For recent discussions about that on Lemmy, a federated Reddit replacement based on ActivityPub: https://lemmy.ml/post/55323 https://lemmy.ml/post/55323 https://lemmy.ml/post/55143 https://lemmy.ml/post/55143

outime 6y ago

I didn’t downvote and I’m very sorry you had/have to go through that. That being said, how I see it is that OP may be referring to the fact that the “hate speech” label is being overused similarly to “fascism” and other similar strong words.

VeninVidiaVicii 6y ago

I had a similar situation happen to me on this very site. I was expressing my concerns about the master/slave terminology and got totally ganged up on, so much so that I abandoned my account that incident occurred on.

nanna 6y ago
I'm really sorry to hear that happened to you here. All these 'free speech' threads seem to attract the most toxic HN users.