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I loathe how everything on the internet has become this worldwide competition. Somebody does something, and immediately everyone says, well, this other person d

by yarcob 6y ago

I loathe how everything on the internet has become this worldwide competition. Somebody does something, and immediately everyone says, well, this other person did this much better. Like, who cares? This guy built something, made fun videos about it, and apparently people like to watch him. Who cares if someone else made something better?

ricc 6y ago
Because that’s how we develop scientifically and technologically as a species?
anticristi 6y ago
I do. These are not "my friend John". These are professional YouTubers that compete for attention to make revenue out of ads and sponsorship. Just as you compare car manufacturers, so the best gets most revenue, it makes perfect sense to compare YouTubers. Also, please don't forget to like my comment and hit that subscribe button.
- jcelerier 6y ago
  > These are professional YouTubers when everyone becomes "professional", no one is anymore
  - amanaplanacanal 6y ago
    Doesn’t professional just mean it makes them money?
    - jcelerier 6y ago
      not in my mother tongue at least
  - anticristi 6y ago
    In my circles, professional has a very clear definition: 80% of your revenue comes from your profession.
    - jcelerier 6y ago
      Absolutely never heard that. For me, being professional only ever meant that you are qualified to do something because you conform to the professionalism rules in a given community. e.g. a music band can be super professional by how they behave and not make a single paid gig.
      - anticristi 6y ago
        A quick WP check seems to confirm my definition: > A professional is a member of a profession or any person who earns their living from a specified professional activity. The term also describes the standards of education and training that prepare members of the profession with the particular knowledge and skills necessary to perform their specific role within that profession. We could skip the "earn their living" part, but then we would all end up being professionals. :)
- xtiansimon 6y ago
  I wanted to comment on this idea of 'professional YouTubers' and 'ad revenue' as it relates to content creators. Despite all of the problems around YouTube, advertising, and the algorithms which promote questionable content (top of mind I'm thinking about the NYT Rabbit Hole program which discusses the problem in broad strokes), YouTube has the lowest barrier for content creators to a "world" audience there has ever been for video content. In the not-too-distant past the only game in town was a limited number of television channels owned by national corporations acting as "gatekeepers" to their communications platform. And let's not forget that system is still in place today. You need to be part of that system just to get airtime on their platform. Not so with YouTube. Generally all advertising infuriates me. I have limited time and its constantly interrupted by advertising on these platforms. And that's a different, though not unrelated, problem. I like this guy's video. He wears a bow tie and yellow polka-dot socks. He does a silly dance when his "jet engine" momentary displays sustained thrust. It's a wonderful world of content. I'm not sure what are all the new problems, but I'm sure the problems of content are not with the professional YouTuber.
  - xtiansimon 6y ago
    I re-read my comments, sometimes frequently. I feel uneasy about my last statement. A bridge too far. Content creators are always responsible for their own content. There’s more to say here, and I look forward to more discussion and the possibility I’m wrong.
- tomjakubowski 6y ago
  > Just as you compare car manufacturers, so the best gets most revenue, What a odd utility function. I'd compare car manufacturers to get a good value for my money. On Youtube, what do I care that a creator of a fun video I enjoyed gets the ad buyer's money, rather than some "technically superior" creator? Unless they're using the revenue to fund terrorism or oil lobbying or something.
  - anticristi 6y ago
    > What a odd utility function. I'd compare car manufacturers to get a good value for my money. Isn't it the same? On YouTube I "pay" with my limited attention and expect good value. Value can mean different things for different people. Personally, I'd choose "technically superior" first, then "funny".
yummypaint 6y ago
There is also educational value in having a variety of people trying the same thing in different ways. Here we are in this thread with people talking about engineering details that popped out when contrasting different designs.

by yarcob 6y ago

ricc 6y ago

Because that’s how we develop scientifically and technologically as a species?

anticristi 6y ago

I do. These are not "my friend John". These are professional YouTubers that compete for attention to make revenue out of ads and sponsorship. Just as you compare car manufacturers, so the best gets most revenue, it makes perfect sense to compare YouTubers. Also, please don't forget to like my comment and hit that subscribe button.

jcelerier 6y ago
> These are professional YouTubers when everyone becomes "professional", no one is anymore
- amanaplanacanal 6y ago
  Doesn’t professional just mean it makes them money?
  - jcelerier 6y ago
    not in my mother tongue at least
- anticristi 6y ago
  In my circles, professional has a very clear definition: 80% of your revenue comes from your profession.
  - jcelerier 6y ago
    Absolutely never heard that. For me, being professional only ever meant that you are qualified to do something because you conform to the professionalism rules in a given community. e.g. a music band can be super professional by how they behave and not make a single paid gig.
    - anticristi 6y ago
      A quick WP check seems to confirm my definition: > A professional is a member of a profession or any person who earns their living from a specified professional activity. The term also describes the standards of education and training that prepare members of the profession with the particular knowledge and skills necessary to perform their specific role within that profession. We could skip the "earn their living" part, but then we would all end up being professionals. :)
xtiansimon 6y ago
I wanted to comment on this idea of 'professional YouTubers' and 'ad revenue' as it relates to content creators. Despite all of the problems around YouTube, advertising, and the algorithms which promote questionable content (top of mind I'm thinking about the NYT Rabbit Hole program which discusses the problem in broad strokes), YouTube has the lowest barrier for content creators to a "world" audience there has ever been for video content. In the not-too-distant past the only game in town was a limited number of television channels owned by national corporations acting as "gatekeepers" to their communications platform. And let's not forget that system is still in place today. You need to be part of that system just to get airtime on their platform. Not so with YouTube. Generally all advertising infuriates me. I have limited time and its constantly interrupted by advertising on these platforms. And that's a different, though not unrelated, problem. I like this guy's video. He wears a bow tie and yellow polka-dot socks. He does a silly dance when his "jet engine" momentary displays sustained thrust. It's a wonderful world of content. I'm not sure what are all the new problems, but I'm sure the problems of content are not with the professional YouTuber.
- xtiansimon 6y ago
  I re-read my comments, sometimes frequently. I feel uneasy about my last statement. A bridge too far. Content creators are always responsible for their own content. There’s more to say here, and I look forward to more discussion and the possibility I’m wrong.
tomjakubowski 6y ago
> Just as you compare car manufacturers, so the best gets most revenue, What a odd utility function. I'd compare car manufacturers to get a good value for my money. On Youtube, what do I care that a creator of a fun video I enjoyed gets the ad buyer's money, rather than some "technically superior" creator? Unless they're using the revenue to fund terrorism or oil lobbying or something.
- anticristi 6y ago
  > What a odd utility function. I'd compare car manufacturers to get a good value for my money. Isn't it the same? On YouTube I "pay" with my limited attention and expect good value. Value can mean different things for different people. Personally, I'd choose "technically superior" first, then "funny".

yummypaint 6y ago

There is also educational value in having a variety of people trying the same thing in different ways. Here we are in this thread with people talking about engineering details that popped out when contrasting different designs.