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> I absolutely hate this kind of nitpicking, and am loathe to see it enforced, especially if the org has the bright idea to try to wire this up as a precommit h

> I absolutely hate this kind of nitpicking, and am loathe to see it enforced, especially if the org has the bright idea to try to wire this up as a precommit hook. I find this so strange. I also loathe nitpicking about syntax which is precisely why I think this would be a great tool! I work in JS now on a large team and one of my least favorite activities is trying to find consensus on which linting rules we should/shouldn’t adopt. It’s such a waste of time!

shepherdjerred 6y ago
Setup Prettier and never talk about style again. (Linting is slightly different -- just use some sane eslint defaults and call it a day)
- acidbaseextract 6y ago
  Another vote for prettier for JS/TS. The primary projects I work on we made some slight tweaks to the default style (wider line width) and though some people were unhappy about adopting a formatter, there have been zero beefs with prettier's actual output among an opinionated group.
- vidarh 6y ago
  Prettier has been the cause of most arguments about style for JS code I've been involved in recently. For starters, it tends to blow up diffs because you get above/below arbitrary limits and trigger a more extensive reformatting than necessary, and it's infuriating. I find the argument that it will stop discussion of style bizarre, because it only shuts down discussions about style if you already have the power to tell people what the accepted style for your organisation is. In that case you don't need a tool that refuses to let you pick and choose, you just need the confidence to tell people you're not going to change things. In other words: It's not Prettier that stops you from having discussions about style again, it's whether or not you signal to people that you're not willing to discuss it. To me, in that respect, a tool like this is a passive aggressive way of signalling that you're unwilling to discuss the subject without being willing to just say that you're not.
tomc1985 6y ago
> I find this so strange. I also loathe nitpicking about syntax which is precisely why I think this would be a great tool! The antidote to nitpicking isn't to force something where nitpicking isn't possible/already resolved, it's staying open-minded and flexible enough to not let the nitpicked things bother you. "There are many roads to Rome" and all that.

shepherdjerred 6y ago

Setup Prettier and never talk about style again. (Linting is slightly different -- just use some sane eslint defaults and call it a day)

acidbaseextract 6y ago
Another vote for prettier for JS/TS. The primary projects I work on we made some slight tweaks to the default style (wider line width) and though some people were unhappy about adopting a formatter, there have been zero beefs with prettier's actual output among an opinionated group.
vidarh 6y ago
Prettier has been the cause of most arguments about style for JS code I've been involved in recently. For starters, it tends to blow up diffs because you get above/below arbitrary limits and trigger a more extensive reformatting than necessary, and it's infuriating. I find the argument that it will stop discussion of style bizarre, because it only shuts down discussions about style if you already have the power to tell people what the accepted style for your organisation is. In that case you don't need a tool that refuses to let you pick and choose, you just need the confidence to tell people you're not going to change things. In other words: It's not Prettier that stops you from having discussions about style again, it's whether or not you signal to people that you're not willing to discuss it. To me, in that respect, a tool like this is a passive aggressive way of signalling that you're unwilling to discuss the subject without being willing to just say that you're not.

tomc1985 6y ago

> I find this so strange. I also loathe nitpicking about syntax which is precisely why I think this would be a great tool! The antidote to nitpicking isn't to force something where nitpicking isn't possible/already resolved, it's staying open-minded and flexible enough to not let the nitpicked things bother you. "There are many roads to Rome" and all that.