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I won't buy a Tesla because of it's UI/UX. Someone should tell Elon that his taste in design sucks, putting touch panels in cars (and in the space X dragon caps

I won't buy a Tesla because of it's UI/UX. Someone should tell Elon that his taste in design sucks, putting touch panels in cars (and in the space X dragon capsule) is outrageous. In general, Elon should be in charge of engineering and nothing else. He is a brilliant engineer and should double down on it. In these forums, people rave about how amazing touch screens are simply because Tesla, their fav brand, has them.

LeoPanthera 6y ago
You say that, but look at the alternatives. Here's the brand new Ford Mach-E: https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1368320371544428555?s=21 https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1368320371544428555?... (Scroll down through subsequent tweets for thread.) Major car manufacturers see the software as an afterthought, and the result is a disaster. This is one thing that Tesla really gets right. Well designed software, frequent updates.
m463 6y ago
It's really unfortunate that you have to buy the worst car to get the best car. The electric drivetrain really is a wonder. It is so completely phenomenally better than gasoline cars. Yet Tesla's UI direction is throwing out the baby, the bathwater and now the customer too. Personally I think they should add a dashboard to the 3/y/truck, even as an option. same for a round steering wheel. I think they should add more - not less - direct tactile controls for critical driving functions.
- LeoPanthera 6y ago
  For what it's worth, a round steering wheel will be an option.
  - m463 6y ago
    Whew. Now I just have to come up with $160,000... :)
sumedh 6y ago
> and in the space X dragon capsule) is outrageous What is so outrageous about that?
- sofixa 6y ago
  There's a good reason airplane cockpits don't use touch screens, and that's because feedback is minimal and you can't use it in low visibility/panic scenarios, which can occur. Having a good old fashioned flip switch in a precise location that can be used with the eyes closed based on muscle memory can literally be the difference between life and death.
  - sumedh 6y ago
    If I am not mistaken that capsule still has physical buttons and switches as a backup.
Zanni 6y ago
You should test drive one. I felt the same way as you, initially. I hate fiddling around with menus for things that should be tactile controls. What people don't realize, until they actually try one out, is that Teslas do have physical controls for everything you need. Everything on the touch screen is set-and-forget. If you're fiddling with the touch screen while you're driving, you're doing it wrong.
jliptzin 6y ago
I've had a model 3 for couple of years and like the touchscreen way better than the analog controls of my previous ICE car. The reason is I know where to find every control. In my previous car there were switches in the center console, under the steering wheel, a bunch on the gear shifter I didn't know how to work, some to the left of the wheel on the panel, some up top near the rear view mirror, etc. I literally did not realize I had a snow mode feature until year 3 of owning the car because I never realized where the button was hiding. I think it's a matter of personal preference.

LeoPanthera 6y ago

You say that, but look at the alternatives. Here's the brand new Ford Mach-E: https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1368320371544428555?s=21 https://twitter.com/greentheonly/status/1368320371544428555?... (Scroll down through subsequent tweets for thread.) Major car manufacturers see the software as an afterthought, and the result is a disaster. This is one thing that Tesla really gets right. Well designed software, frequent updates.

m463 6y ago

It's really unfortunate that you have to buy the worst car to get the best car. The electric drivetrain really is a wonder. It is so completely phenomenally better than gasoline cars. Yet Tesla's UI direction is throwing out the baby, the bathwater and now the customer too. Personally I think they should add a dashboard to the 3/y/truck, even as an option. same for a round steering wheel. I think they should add more - not less - direct tactile controls for critical driving functions.

LeoPanthera 6y ago
For what it's worth, a round steering wheel will be an option.
- m463 6y ago
  Whew. Now I just have to come up with $160,000... :)

sumedh 6y ago

> and in the space X dragon capsule) is outrageous What is so outrageous about that?

sofixa 6y ago
There's a good reason airplane cockpits don't use touch screens, and that's because feedback is minimal and you can't use it in low visibility/panic scenarios, which can occur. Having a good old fashioned flip switch in a precise location that can be used with the eyes closed based on muscle memory can literally be the difference between life and death.
- sumedh 6y ago
  If I am not mistaken that capsule still has physical buttons and switches as a backup.

Zanni 6y ago

You should test drive one. I felt the same way as you, initially. I hate fiddling around with menus for things that should be tactile controls. What people don't realize, until they actually try one out, is that Teslas do have physical controls for everything you need. Everything on the touch screen is set-and-forget. If you're fiddling with the touch screen while you're driving, you're doing it wrong.

jliptzin 6y ago

I've had a model 3 for couple of years and like the touchscreen way better than the analog controls of my previous ICE car. The reason is I know where to find every control. In my previous car there were switches in the center console, under the steering wheel, a bunch on the gear shifter I didn't know how to work, some to the left of the wheel on the panel, some up top near the rear view mirror, etc. I literally did not realize I had a snow mode feature until year 3 of owning the car because I never realized where the button was hiding. I think it's a matter of personal preference.