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> Donut Media pioneered the "suck squeeze bang blow" descriptor of the 4 stroke engine Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I think I've heard the term "

> Donut Media pioneered the "suck squeeze bang blow" descriptor of the 4 stroke engine Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I think I've heard the term "suck squeeze bang blow" way before Feb 23, 2021 and also before 2015 (creation of that Youtube channel) so I find that claim hard to believe.

bagels 6y ago
It predates that channel by decades.
Judgmentality 6y ago
Sorry, it's just the first place I'd heard it. I'll edit my comment. I wasn't speaking on behalf of them. Weird. I've been talking to people about cars for decades and I'd never heard it before them. Is it just something that people don't say anymore? https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/28682/who-came-up-with-suck-squeeze-bang-blow https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/28682/who-came... I guess for whatever reason it's just not used as much, or at least not enough that I've heard it before.
pen2l 6y ago
This text dated 1981 mentions it (page viii): https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-1-349-06976-7%2F1.pdf https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-1-349-06976-... edit: and googling some more, there are instances of in being used it 1950s. And the likely first author of the saying might well be the inventor of the 4 stroke engine himself, Nicolaus Otto, who used a similar saying to describe it: Saugen, Drücken, Knall, Schlag.
- wizzwizz4 6y ago
  Only source I can find for your last claim is https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/a/28690/33924 https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/a/28690/33924: > Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if the great Nikolaus August Otto, inventor of the four-cycle engine had a similar saying to explain his engine: Saugen, Drücken, Knall, Schlag... So I think this is apocryphal.
  - pen2l 6y ago
    You might be right, I'm not sure. At least in Otto's patent filing (which is found in English here: https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/1f/3f/4c/821c6da1070930/US194047.pdf https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/1f/3f/4c/821c6da... ) I don't see such an expression. I do see though that the breakdown of the Otto cycle on most sites including German ones (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottomotor https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottomotor) is usually made in a way that just sorts of lends itself to being transformed that way. Well, thanks for making me go through his writings, this was fun!
cableclasper 6y ago
Yeah. I've seen it in an old BBC documentary: The secret life of machines - Internal Combustion Engine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfr3_AwuO9Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfr3_AwuO9Y
NikolaeVarius 6y ago
Wow screw this channel for such dumb shit.
mhh__ 6y ago
Even top gear referred to it as such probably a decade prior

bagels 6y ago

It predates that channel by decades.

Judgmentality 6y ago

Sorry, it's just the first place I'd heard it. I'll edit my comment. I wasn't speaking on behalf of them. Weird. I've been talking to people about cars for decades and I'd never heard it before them. Is it just something that people don't say anymore? https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/28682/who-came-up-with-suck-squeeze-bang-blow https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/28682/who-came... I guess for whatever reason it's just not used as much, or at least not enough that I've heard it before.

pen2l 6y ago

This text dated 1981 mentions it (page viii): https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-1-349-06976-7%2F1.pdf https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/bfm%3A978-1-349-06976-... edit: and googling some more, there are instances of in being used it 1950s. And the likely first author of the saying might well be the inventor of the 4 stroke engine himself, Nicolaus Otto, who used a similar saying to describe it: Saugen, Drücken, Knall, Schlag.

wizzwizz4 6y ago
Only source I can find for your last claim is https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/a/28690/33924 https://mechanics.stackexchange.com/a/28690/33924: > Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if the great Nikolaus August Otto, inventor of the four-cycle engine had a similar saying to explain his engine: Saugen, Drücken, Knall, Schlag... So I think this is apocryphal.
- pen2l 6y ago
  You might be right, I'm not sure. At least in Otto's patent filing (which is found in English here: https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/1f/3f/4c/821c6da1070930/US194047.pdf https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/1f/3f/4c/821c6da... ) I don't see such an expression. I do see though that the breakdown of the Otto cycle on most sites including German ones (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottomotor https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottomotor) is usually made in a way that just sorts of lends itself to being transformed that way. Well, thanks for making me go through his writings, this was fun!

cableclasper 6y ago

Yeah. I've seen it in an old BBC documentary: The secret life of machines - Internal Combustion Engine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfr3_AwuO9Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfr3_AwuO9Y

NikolaeVarius 6y ago

Wow screw this channel for such dumb shit.

mhh__ 6y ago

Even top gear referred to it as such probably a decade prior