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Is it that girl stuff is more widely mocked, or that girls are more sensitive to it? Boys likely generate and receive more mockery and find it easier to shrug o

Is it that girl stuff is more widely mocked, or that girls are more sensitive to it? Boys likely generate and receive more mockery and find it easier to shrug off. A boy can be relentlessly mocked for loving Warhammer, but just not care as much as a girl mocked for loving Ariana Grande. This would be similar to the finding that while men tend to be harassed on social media at least as much as women, women are outraged more by it. Is it more important to change things so that the reaction is equal, or the provocation?

macintux 6y ago
> This would be similar to the finding that while men tend to be harassed on social media at least as much as women... You lost me there. Setting aside the current political nightmare the U.S. finds itself in, men are not generally subject to death and rape threats like women online. The clothes men wear on TV are not subject to the same constant criticism that women wear. Men who vent frustration on Twitter are not forced to bow out of contention for a Cabinet position like women are.
- cableshaft 6y ago
  Ever played a video game online? The death threats I've received from that alone probably number in the dozens by now, for the crime of not playing perfectly in a match. I've also been told several times that I should be killed or to kill myself because someone didn't enjoy a video game I made and put out into the world (for free). While I'd agree with your premise overall, online anonymity allows for many a death threat to be thrown out there often and casually by jackasses and kids who don't care how they hurt others.
- ben_w 6y ago
  All true; the exceptions are the rarity. It is also true that men are more likely to commit suicide, and that suicide is twice as common in the US as murder and non-negligent manslaughter. And also true that the ratio reverses for attempts. I don’t have solutions, FWIW; unlike the Douglas Adams quip about a girl sitting on her own in a small café in Rickmansworth [0], I have no idea how to make the world a good and happy place. [0] https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/79195-and-then-one-thursday-nearly-two-thousand-years-after-one https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/79195-and-then-one-thursday...
leetcrew 6y ago
not sure it matters to the argument, but I'd point out that teenagers who are really into warhammer also get mocked by their peers for it. it's a nerdy interest. a teenage girl is (I think) unlikely to be mocked by her peers for loving stereotypical teenage girl music.

macintux 6y ago

> This would be similar to the finding that while men tend to be harassed on social media at least as much as women... You lost me there. Setting aside the current political nightmare the U.S. finds itself in, men are not generally subject to death and rape threats like women online. The clothes men wear on TV are not subject to the same constant criticism that women wear. Men who vent frustration on Twitter are not forced to bow out of contention for a Cabinet position like women are.

cableshaft 6y ago
Ever played a video game online? The death threats I've received from that alone probably number in the dozens by now, for the crime of not playing perfectly in a match. I've also been told several times that I should be killed or to kill myself because someone didn't enjoy a video game I made and put out into the world (for free). While I'd agree with your premise overall, online anonymity allows for many a death threat to be thrown out there often and casually by jackasses and kids who don't care how they hurt others.
ben_w 6y ago
All true; the exceptions are the rarity. It is also true that men are more likely to commit suicide, and that suicide is twice as common in the US as murder and non-negligent manslaughter. And also true that the ratio reverses for attempts. I don’t have solutions, FWIW; unlike the Douglas Adams quip about a girl sitting on her own in a small café in Rickmansworth [0], I have no idea how to make the world a good and happy place. [0] https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/79195-and-then-one-thursday-nearly-two-thousand-years-after-one https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/79195-and-then-one-thursday...

leetcrew 6y ago

not sure it matters to the argument, but I'd point out that teenagers who are really into warhammer also get mocked by their peers for it. it's a nerdy interest. a teenage girl is (I think) unlikely to be mocked by her peers for loving stereotypical teenage girl music.