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I don't know any which is why I am asking. It seems like there should be well-known victims of being made an example of.

pjc50 6y ago
Why? We don't usually hold victims accountable for crime, and hardly anyone understands computer crime anyway. There have been a couple of big GDPR fines for customer data breach, but obviously those are made against the company and not individuals.
- ganzuul 6y ago
  Was Aaron Swartz the victim or the perpetrator? They set out to make an example out of him. They psychologically tortured him until his heart broke and he killed himself. They were extremely effective in terrorizing us into submission and now no one dares confront our masters again, lest you end up like poor Aaron. No one even speaks his name and we all know his story. And this was only an academic institution so imagine what these completely inhuman actors behind tax heavens and so on do to suppress those they prey upon. It's a punishment system, not a justice system.
  - wizzwizz4 6y ago
    How is this relevant?
    - ganzuul 6y ago
      It replies to this: "Why? We don't usually hold victims accountable for crime, and hardly anyone understands computer crime anyway." Is there a specific thing you want me to clarify?
      - wizzwizz4 6y ago
        Aaron was accused of a variety of charges, because he'd committed the “crime” of intending to violate corporate copyright on other people's academic papers – but the law was blatantly immoral and the prosecution even more so. He was not a victim of cybercrime; he was the “perpetrator” of something that was retroactively classed as cybercrime. I know you're upset, and angry – we all are – but that just isn't relevant to this discussion.
        ganzuul 6y ago
        I said: "It seems like there should be well-known victims of being made an example of." "Victim of being made an example of." I never said he was the victim of a cybercrime. And it IS relevant because because it makes it unavoidably clear what I wrote that someone didn't read with proper care: The financial sector doesn't have this experience. - They don't have their own Aaron Swartz.
        wizzwizz4 6y ago
        Ah. I thought that was a case of “I a word”, where the missed word was cybercrime.

pjc50 6y ago

Why? We don't usually hold victims accountable for crime, and hardly anyone understands computer crime anyway. There have been a couple of big GDPR fines for customer data breach, but obviously those are made against the company and not individuals.

ganzuul 6y ago
Was Aaron Swartz the victim or the perpetrator? They set out to make an example out of him. They psychologically tortured him until his heart broke and he killed himself. They were extremely effective in terrorizing us into submission and now no one dares confront our masters again, lest you end up like poor Aaron. No one even speaks his name and we all know his story. And this was only an academic institution so imagine what these completely inhuman actors behind tax heavens and so on do to suppress those they prey upon. It's a punishment system, not a justice system.
- wizzwizz4 6y ago
  How is this relevant?
  - ganzuul 6y ago
    It replies to this: "Why? We don't usually hold victims accountable for crime, and hardly anyone understands computer crime anyway." Is there a specific thing you want me to clarify?
    - wizzwizz4 6y ago
      Aaron was accused of a variety of charges, because he'd committed the “crime” of intending to violate corporate copyright on other people's academic papers – but the law was blatantly immoral and the prosecution even more so. He was not a victim of cybercrime; he was the “perpetrator” of something that was retroactively classed as cybercrime. I know you're upset, and angry – we all are – but that just isn't relevant to this discussion.
      - ganzuul 6y ago
        I said: "It seems like there should be well-known victims of being made an example of." "Victim of being made an example of." I never said he was the victim of a cybercrime. And it IS relevant because because it makes it unavoidably clear what I wrote that someone didn't read with proper care: The financial sector doesn't have this experience. - They don't have their own Aaron Swartz.
        wizzwizz4 6y ago
        Ah. I thought that was a case of “I a word”, where the missed word was cybercrime.