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Essentially Apple wanted to see if they could get away with being greedy, and when it didn't work out they abandoned it. It's similar to what they've done with
by jarin 15y ago
Essentially Apple wanted to see if they could get away with being greedy, and when it didn't work out they abandoned it.
It's similar to what they've done with app approvals, features, terms of service, signal strength bars, location data, etc.
- whiskers 15y agoI guess it's easier to give people a bit more freedom when the initial rules are causing a lot of bad will than to restrict functionality down the line that people are relying on/used to having.
- jarin 15y agoI forget who it was, but someone said "You can only ever add features, you can never take them away."
- nextparadigms 15y agoSony has learned that lesson very well lately, well hopefully.
- J3L2404 15y agoExcept on HN.
- rubinelli 15y agoRaymond Chen, perhaps? I vaguely remember this quote associated with Microsoft.
- joshwa 15y agoExcept if you're Google. (to wit: recent API retirement)
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- jamesbritt 15y agoSure you can. If done right some people gripe then adapt and new users are none the wiser.
- ableal 15y agoLet's see how it goes with tying MacOS installs to iTunes accounts, which is the practical outcome of "via Mac App Store only" for the 10.7 release. I suspect it will raise enough hackles.
- ansy 15y agoAlthough Apple wasn't explicit, I believe only the $30 upgrade from Snow Leopard to Lion is exclusive to the App Store. The App Store doesn't exist in Leopard and Tiger, so Apple will probably release a full price DVD set for $180 that includes Lion, iWork, and iLife. Not exactly great, but it is an alternative if you don't want to download from the Mac Store. Keep in mind, prior to Snow Leopard the OS X upgrades were $130 anyway.
- glhaynes 15y agoI believe they made it fairly clear that the only way to get Lion will be through the App Store, though I don't recall the exact wording during the keynote. What I'm trying to say is: I came away with the impression that the App Store was the only way to get it; could be wrong though.
- mfringel 15y agoYou never know how much authority you have until you exceed it.
- GHFigs 15y agoYeah, I sure do hate it when Apple responds positively to feedback.
- pornel 15y agoYes, it's great when husband stops beating his wife. What a great husband! The policy was greedy, and current policy is not a complete reversal — any other purchase systems and even linking to an external shop are still forbidden.
- Tyrannosaurs 15y agoIgnoring the hideous inappropriateness of the metaphor, you'd prefer the husband kept beating the wife? People do bad stuff for any number of reasons but stopping doing bad stuff is always a good thing.
- StavrosK 15y agopornel's point is that this isn't a point in Apple's favor, they just saw that being horrible didn't work for them and scaled it down to being merely terrible. Also, I find the metaphor quite apt.
- Tyrannosaurs 15y agoYou really equate continual physical and mental abuse with unfavourable trade practices? Each to their own I guess. EDIT: My point is that it's a bad metaphor not because there are no links between the two but, as with most heavily emotive metaphors, it comes with too much baggage which distracts from the intended message. A metaphor doesn't have to be a perfect match for what it's describing but the broad content and emotional tone should be similar and here I think it's hard to justify that this is the case.
- burgerbrain 15y agoEach case is about an abuse of rights. The scales vary a great deal, but that is common with metaphors, and not to be unexpected.