Very theoretically, ADL-S is meant to be released in September. This seems a bit surprising, given that people won't typically by buying systems with RKL until

Very theoretically, ADL-S is meant to be released in September. This seems a bit surprising, given that people won't typically by buying systems with RKL until April - a very tight window. RKL might turn out to have been a stop-gap measure that was only semi-needed. A lot of the hyperventilating about how much trouble Intel is in here (which is, frankly, moderately justified) ignores the fact that the desktop segment just isn't that important. I mean, it's important to me. I've been waiting for a new desktop for a while (and, despite being ex-Intel, may go Team Red). But the money is in laptops and servers. Desktop is clearly not high in the queue. It's at the point where I'll either go Team Red (and probably buy a TGL NUC for AVX-512 experimentation) or buy an 8-core TGL "desktop replacement laptop". The power consumption is ridiculous. A lot of my argument for wanting a desktop is not having laptop-style power management wobbles while trying to do fine-grain performance benchmarking, but what kind of wobbles am I going to have on a system like RKL? 291W? 104C? Yeesh. Supposedly the issues are fixed with 10nm in 10++ or whatever it's called (SuperFin?). We're not going to learn about that until September or whenever ADL tips up.