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Yet in the mean time we see this: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/05/07/12/28112238-8296195-image-a-27_1588849541261.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/05/

Yet in the mean time we see this: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/05/07/12/28112238-8296195-image-a-27_1588849541261.jpg https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/05/07/12/28112238-8296195-... Nearly 50% of students in junior high schools will not be able to enter high schools in China. They will enter vocational high schools, in a way similar to those in Germany. And what do Chinese do? They do this: https://images.app.goo.gl/pKvyBtNtBgMhMK1T9 https://images.app.goo.gl/pKvyBtNtBgMhMK1T9 In the picture Chinese parents send their kids to math tutoring classes, and they stayed in the back of the classroom to study too, so they can help their kids after class. Yeah, laugh all you want, believing that training 5 hours a day for whatever bullshit sports is superior to doing algebra a couple of hours a day. But this is how some millions of kids fight to get into college and change their life, despite limited resource and all the struggles in their life. And the government? They make sure teachers can be fired. They make sure teacher's work can be measured. They make sure teachers will have a career ladder. They make sure teachers can have decent income especially pension. And states in the US (K12 education is the responsibility of individual states)? I'm sure they do a better job at K12 education. The US, after all, is a developed country, right?

vmception 6y ago
yes, a wonderful dystopia. I can see you are cynical, the culture that appreciates sports will be less competitive than the culture that appreciates family involvement in STEM. if you change any rules in society, some cultures will be more competitive at it. Germans were a quirky precision obsessed culture long before it became useful in the industrial revolution. Some cultures from Asia are competitive in Western Society, whether it is strenuous manual labor or intellectual pursuits. The actual solution is related to pooling resources to improve society, as this makes it safer and more productive for all. Making it easier improves the fitness of society, as stressors harm society over multiple generations. So just talking about how one can stress themselves out to "make it out" is not productive. We can certainly appreciate it, but it is not a solution for society.
addicted 6y ago
I don’t know about China, but is there any evidence that measuring and firing teachers plays a big role in countries with better educational outcomes? I would be extremely surprised if China, or Scandinavian countries would have weaker labor protections for teachers than they have for their general populace. P What they do have is excellent training, paying teachers well, high teacher to student ratios, modern educational systems based on the latest research and/or a culture and familial backgrounds that emphasize and prioritize education.
- g9yuayon 6y ago
  They don't have high teacher to student ratios. Usually schools have 1:50+ teacher-to-students. Teachers do grade students' homework and exam carefully. Teacher's quality and dedication overweights the ratio, by far.
greedo 6y ago
I think one thing that China has that makes this easier is a more homogeneous society, as well as a form of government that can enforce nationwide policies in a manner that many Western countries would find distasteful.

vmception 6y ago

yes, a wonderful dystopia. I can see you are cynical, the culture that appreciates sports will be less competitive than the culture that appreciates family involvement in STEM. if you change any rules in society, some cultures will be more competitive at it. Germans were a quirky precision obsessed culture long before it became useful in the industrial revolution. Some cultures from Asia are competitive in Western Society, whether it is strenuous manual labor or intellectual pursuits. The actual solution is related to pooling resources to improve society, as this makes it safer and more productive for all. Making it easier improves the fitness of society, as stressors harm society over multiple generations. So just talking about how one can stress themselves out to "make it out" is not productive. We can certainly appreciate it, but it is not a solution for society.

addicted 6y ago

I don’t know about China, but is there any evidence that measuring and firing teachers plays a big role in countries with better educational outcomes? I would be extremely surprised if China, or Scandinavian countries would have weaker labor protections for teachers than they have for their general populace. P What they do have is excellent training, paying teachers well, high teacher to student ratios, modern educational systems based on the latest research and/or a culture and familial backgrounds that emphasize and prioritize education.

g9yuayon 6y ago
They don't have high teacher to student ratios. Usually schools have 1:50+ teacher-to-students. Teachers do grade students' homework and exam carefully. Teacher's quality and dedication overweights the ratio, by far.

greedo 6y ago

I think one thing that China has that makes this easier is a more homogeneous society, as well as a form of government that can enforce nationwide policies in a manner that many Western countries would find distasteful.