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You can't compare Finland and the USA because this is a race problem, not a school management or teacher trust problem. If you compared Finland to only white s
by ars 6y ago
You can't compare Finland and the USA because this is a race problem, not a school management or teacher trust problem.
If you compared Finland to only white students in the USA you'll see one result, if you compare to only black students you'll see very different results.
- jeffbee 6y agoThere are a lot of reasons why making comparisons between Finland and the US is not appropriate. Just one of them: there are more school kids in Brooklyn and Queens than in all of Finland. Comparing to Finland is just cherry-picking. Of course, then there are the systemic/societal reasons you allude to. In America having a child for many people means losing your job and your health care. In Finland they give you a year off and a complete wardrobe for your kid. In Finland they ended homelessness entirely. In America at this very moment they are debating on the senate floor whether repealing eviction moratorium would incentivize single mothers to get a job. There's really no comparing.
- prepend 6y agoFinland pays its teachers less: 42-51k (US$) [0] vs 57-71k (and cost of living is higher in Finland than the US). [0] https://finance.yahoo.com/news/much-teachers-around-world-where-100300817.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/much-teachers-around-world-wh...
- heterodoxxed 6y ago40 years ago, Finland was a backwater nothing of a country and by actual investing in their children and education and teachers equally across the board, they went from that backwater to #1 in education. We in the US have never even tried that for anyone but our wealthiest, let alone our poorest. If we took this problem seriously on a federal level, and put all our options on the table, we absolutely could fix it.