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Hello, everyone! It’s Andrew, founder of Relocate.me. In a nutshell, Relocate.me is a one-stop platform for tech professionals who are willing to relocate for

Hello, everyone! It’s Andrew, founder of Relocate.me. In a nutshell, Relocate.me is a one-stop platform for tech professionals who are willing to relocate for work. Since launching Relocate.me on Hacker News over 3 years ago (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15922401 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15922401), a lot has changed, and I’m excited to finally introduce Relocate.me 3.0 with a batch of new features and enhancements: 1) Learning center (https://relocate.me/learning-center https://relocate.me/learning-center): A treasure trove of useful information and practical advice on finding employment abroad. 2) Companies (https://relocate.me/companies https://relocate.me/companies): A handpicked list of tech companies hiring internationally; you can filter companies by country. 3) Improved search (https://relocate.me/search https://relocate.me/search) 4) Calculators (https://relocate.me/net-pay-calculators https://relocate.me/net-pay-calculators) to estimate your after-taxes paycheck in 20+ countries 5) “Who Wants to be Relocated?” initiative (https://relocate.me/wwbr https://relocate.me/wwbr): A public list of potential tech hires promoted among international recruiters. 6) Non-developer jobs with relocation assistance. Including (but not limited to) Product Manager, Design, and Marketing roles. 7) Telegram channel (https://t.me/relocateme https://t.me/relocateme): A quick way to keep up to date with new positions as they’re posted, relevant news, and more. Thank you so much for reading this far! Our team will be happy to hear your feedback.

908B64B197 6y ago
I see a bunch of calculator but there's no level bands or numbers for compensation when browsing positions.
- andrewstetsenko 6y ago
  Good point. Actually we thought about adding this info to vacancy pages. However, as our experience shows, many companies are not ready to disclose salary info to the public.
  - dmitrygr 6y ago
    Then how do they plan to hide anything above mediocre? Most good+ engineers I know will not waste time on an interview if they do not know upfront that the company pays a sane wage. Else it is a time waste.
    - andrewstetsenko 6y ago
      I think that quick research about the company can give a rough idea about the salary they offer. In most cases, it's possible to find feedback from past employees on Glassdoor.
    - deleted 6y ago
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    - DiggyJohnson 6y ago
      Because this project might provide value in aggregating and filtering the data (i.e. remote job postings) in other ways that still add a lot of value to a certain kind of user.
    - sokoloff 6y ago
      I won’t get to an interview without an idea that there’s a possible overlap in our picture of compensation, but I don’t mind taking the first 15 zoom call if the job otherwise seems interesting.
  - 908B64B197 6y ago
    > However, as our experience shows, many companies are not ready to disclose salary info to the public. Depends on the demographic you are trying to attract on the platform. I've done a little bit of tech recruiting and I can tell you this: top engineers, no matter the level, get a lot of offer. And they won't hesitate to sort by compensation (unless of course it's SpaceX). Really, there are two kinds of businesses out there: those that try to make money playing games with compensation and CoL adjustments and those who make money building the best software out there and scaling. The later won't have any problem giving a number: they need the talent right now to scale.
hunglee2 6y ago
looks like a great resource for the developer community. Where do you expect the developers to move from, and move to?
- andrewstetsenko 6y ago
  Thanks for the warm words. It’s funny, but we did a poll yesterday about the most desired work abroad destination among 589 developers (exclude my vote - it was Japan). You can find the results - https://www.dropbox.com/s/ga2y72eqwcd9bp6/Relocate.me%20March%2004%20poll.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ga2y72eqwcd9bp6/Relocate.me%20Marc...
spockz 6y ago
I know that there are state level taxes as well in the US. Can this be included in the calculator? Also I wonder what the difference in disposable income would be given something like (typical) health insurance, food prices, and housing per state/area
- andrewstetsenko 6y ago
  Thanks a lot for the feedback on the US salary calculator! Makes sense... Added this to the backlog
rimutaka 6y ago
Andrew, it would be interesting to hear a bit about the founding story. One question I'd like to ask is how did you acquire the customers in the early days? What was the plan for that and what actually worked?
- andrewstetsenko 6y ago
  I started a recruitment agency first... After a while, I realized that it was almost impossible to scale this business as well as to be somehow unique comparing to other recruiting firms. It took me around 3 years to negotiate buying the Relocate.me domain name and then the Relocate.me story started. It helped a lot that I was in this field for almost 5 years before launching Relocate.me. So the first users came through the word of mouth and a Product Hunt campaign. Moreover, we 'manually' invited software engineers to the platform, those who somehow expressed their interest in moving abroad (haha, this can help - https://relocateme.eu/blog/how-to-source-for-software-developer-who-are-eager-to-relocate/ https://relocateme.eu/blog/how-to-source-for-software-develo...)
jwagenet 6y ago
I’ve noticed that projects like this primarily focus on recruiting for software roles (which is understandable if they are shared here), but what are the roadblocks to listing traditional engineering roles (mechanical, electrical, etc). Lack of exposure to those industries (understandable)? Companies not offering relevant positions?
- jdxcode 6y ago
  I would assume the biggest roadblock is they actually build physical products
- andrewstetsenko 6y ago
  You've already described the main roadblocks. I suppose that those industries have less in-demand vacancies comparing to software engineering, as well as companies are not offering so many positions with relocation support.
- nonameiguess 6y ago
  Non-software engineering disciplines tend to involve professional licensing that doesn't necessarily carry over automatically to other countries.
  - 908B64B197 6y ago
    In my experience, the good ones do.
  - hanniabu 6y ago
    Medical typically does
    - flimflamm 6y ago
      Not necessarily. You might need to get country specific additional training which can be either easy to get or .. well not.
    - nonameiguess 6y ago
that_guy_iain 6y ago
Legit question, how many people are being relocated currently? I would have thought Corona would have really messed up your flow but I keep getting emails from you guys with jobs so I assume it's still happening.
- brailsafe 6y ago
  I'd be curious as well, though I've met people in the last year who have made moves with the correct visas. Not on this platform though. It seems like the flights were the hardest part.

908B64B197 6y ago

I see a bunch of calculator but there's no level bands or numbers for compensation when browsing positions.

andrewstetsenko 6y ago
Good point. Actually we thought about adding this info to vacancy pages. However, as our experience shows, many companies are not ready to disclose salary info to the public.
- dmitrygr 6y ago
  Then how do they plan to hide anything above mediocre? Most good+ engineers I know will not waste time on an interview if they do not know upfront that the company pays a sane wage. Else it is a time waste.
  - andrewstetsenko 6y ago
    I think that quick research about the company can give a rough idea about the salary they offer. In most cases, it's possible to find feedback from past employees on Glassdoor.
  - deleted 6y ago
    [deleted]
  - DiggyJohnson 6y ago
    Because this project might provide value in aggregating and filtering the data (i.e. remote job postings) in other ways that still add a lot of value to a certain kind of user.
  - sokoloff 6y ago
    I won’t get to an interview without an idea that there’s a possible overlap in our picture of compensation, but I don’t mind taking the first 15 zoom call if the job otherwise seems interesting.
- 908B64B197 6y ago
  > However, as our experience shows, many companies are not ready to disclose salary info to the public. Depends on the demographic you are trying to attract on the platform. I've done a little bit of tech recruiting and I can tell you this: top engineers, no matter the level, get a lot of offer. And they won't hesitate to sort by compensation (unless of course it's SpaceX). Really, there are two kinds of businesses out there: those that try to make money playing games with compensation and CoL adjustments and those who make money building the best software out there and scaling. The later won't have any problem giving a number: they need the talent right now to scale.

hunglee2 6y ago

looks like a great resource for the developer community. Where do you expect the developers to move from, and move to?

andrewstetsenko 6y ago
Thanks for the warm words. It’s funny, but we did a poll yesterday about the most desired work abroad destination among 589 developers (exclude my vote - it was Japan). You can find the results - https://www.dropbox.com/s/ga2y72eqwcd9bp6/Relocate.me%20March%2004%20poll.png?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/ga2y72eqwcd9bp6/Relocate.me%20Marc...

spockz 6y ago

I know that there are state level taxes as well in the US. Can this be included in the calculator? Also I wonder what the difference in disposable income would be given something like (typical) health insurance, food prices, and housing per state/area

andrewstetsenko 6y ago
Thanks a lot for the feedback on the US salary calculator! Makes sense... Added this to the backlog

rimutaka 6y ago

Andrew, it would be interesting to hear a bit about the founding story. One question I'd like to ask is how did you acquire the customers in the early days? What was the plan for that and what actually worked?

andrewstetsenko 6y ago
I started a recruitment agency first... After a while, I realized that it was almost impossible to scale this business as well as to be somehow unique comparing to other recruiting firms. It took me around 3 years to negotiate buying the Relocate.me domain name and then the Relocate.me story started. It helped a lot that I was in this field for almost 5 years before launching Relocate.me. So the first users came through the word of mouth and a Product Hunt campaign. Moreover, we 'manually' invited software engineers to the platform, those who somehow expressed their interest in moving abroad (haha, this can help - https://relocateme.eu/blog/how-to-source-for-software-developer-who-are-eager-to-relocate/ https://relocateme.eu/blog/how-to-source-for-software-develo...)

jwagenet 6y ago

I’ve noticed that projects like this primarily focus on recruiting for software roles (which is understandable if they are shared here), but what are the roadblocks to listing traditional engineering roles (mechanical, electrical, etc). Lack of exposure to those industries (understandable)? Companies not offering relevant positions?

jdxcode 6y ago
I would assume the biggest roadblock is they actually build physical products
andrewstetsenko 6y ago
You've already described the main roadblocks. I suppose that those industries have less in-demand vacancies comparing to software engineering, as well as companies are not offering so many positions with relocation support.
nonameiguess 6y ago
Non-software engineering disciplines tend to involve professional licensing that doesn't necessarily carry over automatically to other countries.
- 908B64B197 6y ago
  In my experience, the good ones do.
- hanniabu 6y ago
  Medical typically does
  - flimflamm 6y ago
    Not necessarily. You might need to get country specific additional training which can be either easy to get or .. well not.
  - nonameiguess 6y ago

that_guy_iain 6y ago

Legit question, how many people are being relocated currently? I would have thought Corona would have really messed up your flow but I keep getting emails from you guys with jobs so I assume it's still happening.

brailsafe 6y ago
I'd be curious as well, though I've met people in the last year who have made moves with the correct visas. Not on this platform though. It seems like the flights were the hardest part.