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I doubt it's overnight destruction of the business. It likely means selling some of their amortized equipment to buy different equipment. They've likely had

by diydsp 6y ago

I doubt it's overnight destruction of the business. It likely means selling some of their amortized equipment to buy different equipment. They've likely had notice for a long time. Especially if they participate in their government.

Proziam 6y ago
> It likely means selling some of their amortized equipment to buy different equipment. Many run their business with the tools they can afford. Upon inspection, you would find that many such businesses have little to no resale value to lean on to make such an upgrade. > They've likely had notice for a long time. Especially if they participate in their government. What percentage of people laborers have the time to actively participate in government? I don't know the answer to this but I suspect it's shockingly small.
- Apocryphon 6y ago
  > Many run their business with the tools they can afford. Are electric equivalents of the banned gas tools really that much more expensive?
  - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
    The higher end electric stuff isn't priced exorbitantly compared to the higher end ICE stuff that businesses tend to use. The problem preventing commercial adoption is that if you want commercial user amounts of uninterrupted run time you wind up spending a fortune on batteries.
bluGill 6y ago
That equipment only lasts so long anyway. If you drove your care as much as the pros drive their lawn mowers you would be putting around 75,000 miles a year on the car! If the law doesn't take effect for 3 years then all equipment will have been replaced by the normal cycle. Of course if you are a homeowner that equipment will last a lot longer. (home owners buy a cheaper grade of quality in general, so you can't compare lifetimes with pro grade equipment)
- Proziam 6y ago
  > If the law doesn't take effect for 3 years then all equipment will have been replaced by the normal cycle. I have personally seen such equipment remain in use for 15-20 years. When I was young the lawnmower we used was a monstrous Craftsman that was originally built 20 years prior. It was used year-round for that period for everything from snow removal, lawn mowing, and hauling landscaping supplies (retaining wall blocks and the like). You would likely be surprised at the level of care and maintenance some small business owners put in.
  - bluGill 6y ago
    Bigger equipment lasts longer. When weight is an advantage you don't feel bad about putting in bracing to make things last longer. We are talking about hand held stuff here though. While pros need equipment to last longer than home owners, there is a limit to how much mass they can deal with for something that is hand held.

by diydsp 6y ago

Proziam 6y ago

> It likely means selling some of their amortized equipment to buy different equipment. Many run their business with the tools they can afford. Upon inspection, you would find that many such businesses have little to no resale value to lean on to make such an upgrade. > They've likely had notice for a long time. Especially if they participate in their government. What percentage of people laborers have the time to actively participate in government? I don't know the answer to this but I suspect it's shockingly small.

Apocryphon 6y ago
> Many run their business with the tools they can afford. Are electric equivalents of the banned gas tools really that much more expensive?
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  The higher end electric stuff isn't priced exorbitantly compared to the higher end ICE stuff that businesses tend to use. The problem preventing commercial adoption is that if you want commercial user amounts of uninterrupted run time you wind up spending a fortune on batteries.

bluGill 6y ago

That equipment only lasts so long anyway. If you drove your care as much as the pros drive their lawn mowers you would be putting around 75,000 miles a year on the car! If the law doesn't take effect for 3 years then all equipment will have been replaced by the normal cycle. Of course if you are a homeowner that equipment will last a lot longer. (home owners buy a cheaper grade of quality in general, so you can't compare lifetimes with pro grade equipment)

Proziam 6y ago
> If the law doesn't take effect for 3 years then all equipment will have been replaced by the normal cycle. I have personally seen such equipment remain in use for 15-20 years. When I was young the lawnmower we used was a monstrous Craftsman that was originally built 20 years prior. It was used year-round for that period for everything from snow removal, lawn mowing, and hauling landscaping supplies (retaining wall blocks and the like). You would likely be surprised at the level of care and maintenance some small business owners put in.
- bluGill 6y ago
  Bigger equipment lasts longer. When weight is an advantage you don't feel bad about putting in bracing to make things last longer. We are talking about hand held stuff here though. While pros need equipment to last longer than home owners, there is a limit to how much mass they can deal with for something that is hand held.