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I use Hugo for projects, it’s plenty powerful and easy to automate with data. For personal stuff, I use org mode. It’s more free form and provides just enough

I use Hugo for projects, it’s plenty powerful and easy to automate with data. For personal stuff, I use org mode. It’s more free form and provides just enough publishing features. SSGs seems like popular bikeshedding matter.

pdimitar 6y ago
I tried Org Mode the other day and gave up when Emacs didn't allow me to edit an in-place SQL fragment with some cryptic error that you can't edit it in-line, so had to use a keybind to open a new buffer in order to be able to edit something that in Markdown is as as simple as triple backticks, the word "sql", the SQL code, and then another block of triple backticks. Am I missing something? Org Mode is always so glorified yet it failed a pretty basic use case for me.
- jeromenerf 6y ago
  I do edit inline code and I have never had this issue. It is indeed a basic feature that should just work. Most probably a plug-in bug. Emacs, org and Babel are great to write “live” documents.
  - pdimitar 6y ago
    I am using it with Spacemacs so there's likely something there. I love Emacs but after ~18 years with it it's basically a death by a thousand paper cuts. It gets tiring to always have to fight for some basic features. :(
- natrys 6y ago
  I suspect I encountered the same bug (in vanilla Emacs). It seems in Emacs 27 they introduced support for sql-indent-mode[1][2] which is not shipped by default but is in elpa. However there is a hook that checks if that package is installed, if so then loads it by default. It seems when not installed, somehow said hook messes things up in org-mode. Thanks to some investigative work from Doom Emacs people[3][4], I have found that my issue was fixed by simply installing the sql-indent package. Of course you would need to make sure these settings are set to true to enable tab acting according to native mode in source code blocks: (setq org-src-tab-acts-natively t) (setq org-src-preserve-indentation t) (setq org-src-fontify-natively t) And yes, I wasn't amused by this. I had another problem with shell mode indentation in org source blocks as well. That said, while the lack of cohesion due to decentralised nature of Emacs development occasionally surfaces like this, I think it would be unfair to not mention that org-mode when not buggy - which is more often than not - makes a lot of great features accessible. For instance, it automatically connects to Postgres, runs my query fragment, and populates an org-mode table (which are awesome) with the resulting output - I find this feature invaluable. Oh and if you are a Spacemacs user, perhaps give Doom Emacs a try. [1] https://github.com/alex-hhh/emacs-sql-indent https://github.com/alex-hhh/emacs-sql-indent [2] https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/master/etc/NEWS.27#L1141 https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/master/etc/NEWS.2... [3] https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs/issues/3787 https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs/issues/3787 [4] https://github.com/alex-hhh/emacs-sql-indent/issues/96 https://github.com/alex-hhh/emacs-sql-indent/issues/96
  - pdimitar 6y ago
    I do use Spacemacs. Do you have an advice about how to install sql-indent there? I'll find it one way or another, just wondering if you have experience. I think I can do the rest quite fine (already mastered setting those vars in Spacemacs, thankfully). As for Doom Emacs, I am mentally way too fatigued by learning new tools almost every day. :( I hear that it can be kind of like Spacemacs but it requires quite a bit more manual management which I am not a fan of. Do you have any experience confirming or refuting this impression of mine. Very thankful for the links, I'm currently going through them.
    - natrys 6y ago
      Sorry I am not a user of either. I think this might be it for Spacemacs: https://www.spacemacs.org/doc/DOCUMENTATION.html#orgheadline21 https://www.spacemacs.org/doc/DOCUMENTATION.html#orgheadline... I did try Doom Emacs though. I felt it was usable right out of the box with nice defaults. But then again I haven't used it for a serious time length (I prefer Emacs keybinding, rare I know). I also empathise with tool fatigue. I haven't significantly touched my Emacs config in a while, been in strictly bug fixing mode. That does mean I shouldn't update major version of Emacs, or the packages, but I sometimes do that anyway :/
      - pdimitar 6y ago
        Let's hug and cry. :D Last time I blindly updated Spacemacs itself I lost an hour getting it back to a workable state, sigh. Learned my lesson since then. I do both: (a) completely back up my ~/.emacs.d to another directory and (b) write down the last-known GIT commit hash of Spacemacs. Paid off huge dividends half the time I did updates ever since. I love Emacs but it seems certain things won't ever get resolved (like macOS slow rendering although that's like 70% attributed to huge fonts with a lot of emojis in them so I got that part sorted at least). Again, thanks for the support -- much appreciated! I'll go through the links plus will try to resolve my Org Mode problem in particular -- eventually.

pdimitar 6y ago

I tried Org Mode the other day and gave up when Emacs didn't allow me to edit an in-place SQL fragment with some cryptic error that you can't edit it in-line, so had to use a keybind to open a new buffer in order to be able to edit something that in Markdown is as as simple as triple backticks, the word "sql", the SQL code, and then another block of triple backticks. Am I missing something? Org Mode is always so glorified yet it failed a pretty basic use case for me.

jeromenerf 6y ago
I do edit inline code and I have never had this issue. It is indeed a basic feature that should just work. Most probably a plug-in bug. Emacs, org and Babel are great to write “live” documents.
- pdimitar 6y ago
  I am using it with Spacemacs so there's likely something there. I love Emacs but after ~18 years with it it's basically a death by a thousand paper cuts. It gets tiring to always have to fight for some basic features. :(
natrys 6y ago
I suspect I encountered the same bug (in vanilla Emacs). It seems in Emacs 27 they introduced support for sql-indent-mode[1][2] which is not shipped by default but is in elpa. However there is a hook that checks if that package is installed, if so then loads it by default. It seems when not installed, somehow said hook messes things up in org-mode. Thanks to some investigative work from Doom Emacs people[3][4], I have found that my issue was fixed by simply installing the sql-indent package. Of course you would need to make sure these settings are set to true to enable tab acting according to native mode in source code blocks: (setq org-src-tab-acts-natively t) (setq org-src-preserve-indentation t) (setq org-src-fontify-natively t) And yes, I wasn't amused by this. I had another problem with shell mode indentation in org source blocks as well. That said, while the lack of cohesion due to decentralised nature of Emacs development occasionally surfaces like this, I think it would be unfair to not mention that org-mode when not buggy - which is more often than not - makes a lot of great features accessible. For instance, it automatically connects to Postgres, runs my query fragment, and populates an org-mode table (which are awesome) with the resulting output - I find this feature invaluable. Oh and if you are a Spacemacs user, perhaps give Doom Emacs a try. [1] https://github.com/alex-hhh/emacs-sql-indent https://github.com/alex-hhh/emacs-sql-indent [2] https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/master/etc/NEWS.27#L1141 https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/blob/master/etc/NEWS.2... [3] https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs/issues/3787 https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs/issues/3787 [4] https://github.com/alex-hhh/emacs-sql-indent/issues/96 https://github.com/alex-hhh/emacs-sql-indent/issues/96
- pdimitar 6y ago
  I do use Spacemacs. Do you have an advice about how to install sql-indent there? I'll find it one way or another, just wondering if you have experience. I think I can do the rest quite fine (already mastered setting those vars in Spacemacs, thankfully). As for Doom Emacs, I am mentally way too fatigued by learning new tools almost every day. :( I hear that it can be kind of like Spacemacs but it requires quite a bit more manual management which I am not a fan of. Do you have any experience confirming or refuting this impression of mine. Very thankful for the links, I'm currently going through them.
  - natrys 6y ago
    Sorry I am not a user of either. I think this might be it for Spacemacs: https://www.spacemacs.org/doc/DOCUMENTATION.html#orgheadline21 https://www.spacemacs.org/doc/DOCUMENTATION.html#orgheadline... I did try Doom Emacs though. I felt it was usable right out of the box with nice defaults. But then again I haven't used it for a serious time length (I prefer Emacs keybinding, rare I know). I also empathise with tool fatigue. I haven't significantly touched my Emacs config in a while, been in strictly bug fixing mode. That does mean I shouldn't update major version of Emacs, or the packages, but I sometimes do that anyway :/
    - pdimitar 6y ago
      Let's hug and cry. :D Last time I blindly updated Spacemacs itself I lost an hour getting it back to a workable state, sigh. Learned my lesson since then. I do both: (a) completely back up my ~/.emacs.d to another directory and (b) write down the last-known GIT commit hash of Spacemacs. Paid off huge dividends half the time I did updates ever since. I love Emacs but it seems certain things won't ever get resolved (like macOS slow rendering although that's like 70% attributed to huge fonts with a lot of emojis in them so I got that part sorted at least). Again, thanks for the support -- much appreciated! I'll go through the links plus will try to resolve my Org Mode problem in particular -- eventually.