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May be the world polarising into two kind of extreme polarisization: one with a sense of humor and one without it. And it has a noticeable effect on the face. I

May be the world polarising into two kind of extreme polarisization: one with a sense of humor and one without it. And it has a noticeable effect on the face. I'd love to see few samples of faces from each class.

umvi 6y ago
Both the far left and far right have no sense of humor because both have lost all sense of reasonableness. On the right you have Trump cultists who loyally cling to every word he utters, regardless of it is true or not, spreading lies and misinformation on social media about voter fraud, vaccines, etc. You also have covid denial on the right where "the constitution" is used as a bludgeon to resist any reasonable public health policy like mask usage. On the left you have the wokeness mobs that go around trying to cancel/censor/destroy every historical figure/book/statue who didn't live a perfect life and destroying careers of anyone who says the wrong word or makes a bad analogy. You also have covid zealotry on the left where "covid deaths prevented" is prioritized above all else and we can't re-open schools, re-open businesses, visit grandparents, or otherwise get back to normal life (even after mass vaccination) until 100% of all remaining unknowns are known (even if it takes another 2 years of masking, zooming, and hermiting). These are all very recent examples.
- A12-B 6y ago
  The far left is pretty good at making fun of the right for saying silly things like this, actually.
Pfhreak 6y ago
I'm incredibly curious which political group has a sense of humor in your mind. Because I'm going to guess most folks would say, "my political group".
- imwillofficial 6y ago
  Can you read my mind?!? ::Looks at you with suspicion:: In all seriousness, I haven’t followed closely, so I don’t know who hates Dr. Seuss lately, they are the baddies.
  - Pfhreak 6y ago
    I think it's yet another situation where everyone is escalating hard from "hey, there are some stereotypes in this particular media that are problematic when presented uncritically". That initial idea somehow turns into, "The left hates Dr. Seuss" and wild slippery slopes about book burning.
    - imwillofficial 6y ago
      The left is literally pushing for the banning of a childhood classic with no racial problems. No slippery slope needed.
      - anigbrowl 6y ago
        That isn't true. There was a scholarly paper that came out in 2019 observing that a few of Dr Seuss's many children's books included racial stereotypes that are dated to the point of being offensive, and that Geisel/Seuss had also produced a lot of adult cartoons that were overtly racist, a complicating factor for educators who used his books to to educate children about discrimination. https://sophia.stkate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1050&context=rdyl https://sophia.stkate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1050&c... Recently the publisher announced it was going to stop selling those - I think it was 6 books out of 107 in the catalog. There was no pressure campaign or wave of outrage driving it. Perhaps you should choose better news sources, as the ones you are using seem to be serving you poorly.
        imwillofficial 6y ago
        Ebay is banning accounts that sell Dr. Seuss books. Fact. The outrage over racial overtones came from a left aligned organization. Fact. It was carried on and cheered on by left leaning people. Fact. People on the right don’t use words like “problematic” and “racialized undertones” That’s on you guys. This is from The horses mouth: “ Six popular Dr. Seuss books — including And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street and If I Ran the Zoo — “will stop being published because of racist and insensitive imagery, the business that preserves and protects the author’s legacy said Tuesday,” The Associated Press reported. “These books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong,” Dr. Seuss Enterprises told The Associated Press in a statement marking the late author and illustrator’s birthday.” ^ The above is just stupid.
iujjkfjdkkdkf 6y ago
This made me think a bit - I imagine most of the polarization these days comes from a vocal minority of either side, and that 95%+ of people are much more relaxed about politics (and still have a sense of humour) than we imagine from the media. So it would be interesting to see if hyperpartisans could be separated from moderates by their appearance (just to be clear, I dont believe in phrenology, I imagine its information leaking from other aspects of presentation and background). With respect to humour, the modern lack of humor seems to focus on not offending people, which I admit I dont understand but I could guess is predicated on the feeling that laughter is somehow equated to divisive mocking, as opposed to fun. I bring this up only because it reminds me a lot of Umberto Eco's "The Name of The Rose" where the 13th century religious leaders were arguing that laughter was inappropriate, and Jesus never laughed, somehow rooted in the belief that finding humor in things admitted the possibility of laughing at aspects of religion and therefore not taking them seriously. Anyway, your comment made me think, so thanks.
rsynnott 6y ago
Or alternatively, two groups who each think the other has no sense of humour.

umvi 6y ago

Both the far left and far right have no sense of humor because both have lost all sense of reasonableness. On the right you have Trump cultists who loyally cling to every word he utters, regardless of it is true or not, spreading lies and misinformation on social media about voter fraud, vaccines, etc. You also have covid denial on the right where "the constitution" is used as a bludgeon to resist any reasonable public health policy like mask usage. On the left you have the wokeness mobs that go around trying to cancel/censor/destroy every historical figure/book/statue who didn't live a perfect life and destroying careers of anyone who says the wrong word or makes a bad analogy. You also have covid zealotry on the left where "covid deaths prevented" is prioritized above all else and we can't re-open schools, re-open businesses, visit grandparents, or otherwise get back to normal life (even after mass vaccination) until 100% of all remaining unknowns are known (even if it takes another 2 years of masking, zooming, and hermiting). These are all very recent examples.

A12-B 6y ago
The far left is pretty good at making fun of the right for saying silly things like this, actually.

Pfhreak 6y ago

I'm incredibly curious which political group has a sense of humor in your mind. Because I'm going to guess most folks would say, "my political group".

imwillofficial 6y ago
Can you read my mind?!? ::Looks at you with suspicion:: In all seriousness, I haven’t followed closely, so I don’t know who hates Dr. Seuss lately, they are the baddies.
- Pfhreak 6y ago
  I think it's yet another situation where everyone is escalating hard from "hey, there are some stereotypes in this particular media that are problematic when presented uncritically". That initial idea somehow turns into, "The left hates Dr. Seuss" and wild slippery slopes about book burning.
  - imwillofficial 6y ago
    The left is literally pushing for the banning of a childhood classic with no racial problems. No slippery slope needed.
    - anigbrowl 6y ago
      That isn't true. There was a scholarly paper that came out in 2019 observing that a few of Dr Seuss's many children's books included racial stereotypes that are dated to the point of being offensive, and that Geisel/Seuss had also produced a lot of adult cartoons that were overtly racist, a complicating factor for educators who used his books to to educate children about discrimination. https://sophia.stkate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1050&context=rdyl https://sophia.stkate.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1050&c... Recently the publisher announced it was going to stop selling those - I think it was 6 books out of 107 in the catalog. There was no pressure campaign or wave of outrage driving it. Perhaps you should choose better news sources, as the ones you are using seem to be serving you poorly.
      - imwillofficial 6y ago
        Ebay is banning accounts that sell Dr. Seuss books. Fact. The outrage over racial overtones came from a left aligned organization. Fact. It was carried on and cheered on by left leaning people. Fact. People on the right don’t use words like “problematic” and “racialized undertones” That’s on you guys. This is from The horses mouth: “ Six popular Dr. Seuss books — including And to Think That I Saw It on Mulberry Street and If I Ran the Zoo — “will stop being published because of racist and insensitive imagery, the business that preserves and protects the author’s legacy said Tuesday,” The Associated Press reported. “These books portray people in ways that are hurtful and wrong,” Dr. Seuss Enterprises told The Associated Press in a statement marking the late author and illustrator’s birthday.” ^ The above is just stupid.

iujjkfjdkkdkf 6y ago

This made me think a bit - I imagine most of the polarization these days comes from a vocal minority of either side, and that 95%+ of people are much more relaxed about politics (and still have a sense of humour) than we imagine from the media. So it would be interesting to see if hyperpartisans could be separated from moderates by their appearance (just to be clear, I dont believe in phrenology, I imagine its information leaking from other aspects of presentation and background). With respect to humour, the modern lack of humor seems to focus on not offending people, which I admit I dont understand but I could guess is predicated on the feeling that laughter is somehow equated to divisive mocking, as opposed to fun. I bring this up only because it reminds me a lot of Umberto Eco's "The Name of The Rose" where the 13th century religious leaders were arguing that laughter was inappropriate, and Jesus never laughed, somehow rooted in the belief that finding humor in things admitted the possibility of laughing at aspects of religion and therefore not taking them seriously. Anyway, your comment made me think, so thanks.

rsynnott 6y ago

Or alternatively, two groups who each think the other has no sense of humour.